Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Jones (artist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 19:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Karin Jones (artist)

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of an artist, not properly referenced as passing our notability criteria for artists. This is referenced overwhelmingly to primary sources, such as YouTube videos and her own self-published website about herself and the self-published websites of galleries where her work has been shown, with absolutely no WP:GNG-worthy coverage in real media used at all -- and while there's also a "further reading" section that lists (but does not link) a bunch of additional "sources" that aren't being used as footnotes, they still largely aren't helping much: a lot of them are Q&A interviews in which the subject is talking about herself in the first person, which is fine for verifying facts but doesn't help to build notability as it doesn't represent third party coverage or analysis; a few are merely primary source verification (which doesn't help notability) that she spoke on panels or had shows; and even the few that are genuinely solid and WP:GNG-worthy all just represent local coverage in her own hometown media market, with no evidence of nationalizing coverage shown at all. As always, notability is not established just by verifying facts; it's established by demonstrating the existence of third-party coverage and analysis about those facts, such as art critics reviewing her art and people writing about her as the subject rather than simply quoting her as the speaker. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced a lot better than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment it appears the article is still in draft space? Oaktree b (talk) 17:58, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Article author reacted to the AfD nomination by immediately moving it to draftspace. I have moved it back.  --Finngall talk  18:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete she was nominated for an art award in a CBC article I find and listed as having participated in a display in a BC art gallery. Rather trivial coverage. What's in the article is too wordy to be useful and some of it is self-sourced. Oaktree b (talk) 18:13, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify if only to give a new editor a break and give them time to understand better what are reliable sources. I suspect it might be WP:TOOSOON but let's assume otherwise for the time being. Curiocurio (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify All info referenced to the artist's CV needs to be removed. The article confuses exhibition vs. collection and that really needs to be clarified and sources. I deleted some of the completely unsourced information, and moved the CV lists to the talk page WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I removed all the fluff and still don't know if artist meets notability. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment In an attempt to save this article I have cut it down to just reliable sources and removed all jargon. More info could be added if properly sourced. Still don't know if this is still WP:TOOSOON. Interesting art. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I went looking for additional sources, and didn't pull up anything. I'm not opposed to draftifying in the hope that more substantiative coverage that meets GNG becomes available, but what's out there right now does not meet that threshold. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs  talk 23:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - locally known artist; with only local, possibly unreliable sources, fails WP:NARTIST. Bearian (talk) 15:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


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