Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karine Hannah


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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Karine Hannah

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Highly advertorialized WP:BLP of a musician, whose sole notability claim (charting hits in Billboard) is explicitly not verified by its own supporting source: the reference is to Billboard, but lists zero chart appearances for her and no content suggesting that the magazine's writers have paid her any editorial attention. As always, a musician does not qualify for a Wikipedia article just because it claims passage of an WP:NMUSIC criterion -- the claim has to be verified as true by a reliable source before it actually passes NMUSIC. I can't find any other reliable source coverage about her on a Google News search -- except for a single Q&A interview in which she's talking about herself (which would be fine for some verification of stray facts in an article that had already cleared WP:GNG on stronger sources, but does not confer a GNG pass by itself as an article's best source), all I can find otherwise is a few glancing namechecks of her existence in articles about other things. And finally, even musicians who do clear our notability standards still don't get to have their articles written this advertorially -- Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia, not a free publicity platform. Also possible WP:COI, as the creator's username was "Karine Grauer". Bearcat (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete well explained. Legacypac (talk) 14:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete lack of adequate sources to verify.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:52, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment She does have one song on the chart at Billboard; I’ve corrected the URL in the citation. NotARabbit (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The "corrected" link still just takes me to a page that has her name at the top, immediately followed by the masthead footer bar with no chart positions listed in between those two things. Bearcat (talk) 23:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Odd. The link takes me to a page where I can see the song listed (screenshot here). Try purging the page? Or your browser cache? NotARabbit (talk) 01:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It might be a moot point. Billboard says that she had one song that peaked at #33 in March 2016, not “two pop/dance songs that entered the billboard charts in the top 5” as claimed in the article. I know zip about singer/entertainer notability, so I am neutral here. NotARabbit (talk) 02:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment (again) Most of the text of the article was copied straight from here; I’ve removed it. NotARabbit (talk) 02:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I can also confirm that I'm seeing here one song "I'm Burning Up" peaking at position 33 on the "Hot Dance/Electronic Songs" chart. I am also seeing "I'm Burning Up" and another song, "Victory", peaking at positions 6 and 14, respectively, on the "Dance Club Songs" chart. Neither of these are the United States' national music chart, however, which is the Billboard Hot 100, so these have little effect on notability. My web searches are finding the same things that Bearcat mentioned in his analysis. I'm assuming this is the interview he was talking about. Absent additional sources, I'm also leaning delete, unfortunately. Mz7 (talk) 05:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)


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