Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karlići


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was stubify and keep. GRBerry 14:12, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Karlići

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Article is not about the place Karlići, a village in Croatia. It very briefly presents a supposed apparition of the Virgin Mary in that village as if it is fact. No sources. Violates NPOV. Ward3001 19:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom (no sources and POV). - Rjd0060 19:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: As per nom and my concerns on the talk page. That said, if there was in fact a well-publicized perceived manifestation, the page might be appropriate (although the current contents wouldn't be). Zimbardo Cookie Experiment 19:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - No way to verify the article. No references either.  NA SC AR Fan 24 (radio me!) 20:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment can't this be re-written to be simply about the village? I.e., something along the lines "Karlići is a small village in Croatia, approximately 5 km outside Crikvenica. The Karlići Sanctuary (Svetište Karlići) is located there."  There's no need to mention the apparition of the Virgin Mary (unless, of course, reliable sources can be found, such as news stories etc.) 131.111.8.98 22:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep & stubify per 131.111.8.98. Previous discussion has concluded settlements are inherently notable, see WP:OUTCOMES. The lack of verification for the appearance of the Virgin Mary there (for which claim there may well be non-English media coverage) is not a reason to delete the factual information on the settlement. Espresso Addict 12:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - In theory you may be right, but if you delete unverified information about the Virgin Mary, nothing is left, and empty articles are not acceptable. Keeping without deleting the information will not ensure that someone will fix it. Ward3001 16:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.