Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karol Wojtyła (senior)


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The result was   merge to Early life of Pope John Paul II. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Karol Wojtyła (senior)

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Note: this AFD concerns the article of Emilia Wojtyła as well. Parents of Pope John Paul II. Unfortunately, outside of the enduring fame of their child, they themselves have achieved nothing in life to suggest they pass WP:BIO. And as notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, I am afraid those articles need to go. Per the merge request in the articles, a merger and redirect (which would keep the interwiki links to some other wikis, like Polish, where the proposal to delete those articles ended in no consensus; it's worth noting that pl wiki has much fewer policies on notability, up to and including no provision along the lines of our NOTIHERITED) to Early life of Pope John Paul II may be the best solution. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:47, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect both as above. Not independently notable, with no particular accomplishments. Short articles, so would be easy to merge. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Merge/redirect. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. There are, of course, well-known exceptions to NOTINHERITED.  If he was especially instrumental in the future Pope's education, religious studies, etc., then I might change my mind.  I am not aware of any facts that either of Pope John Paul II's parents "pushed" him into his calling. Bearian (talk) 23:11, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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