Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karol Wolfram


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The result was keep. Tone 17:48, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Karol Wolfram

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Unreferenced article about Polish clergyman. Not obviously notable. Rathfelder (talk) 11:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Rathfelder (talk) 11:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Rathfelder (talk) 11:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:13, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete until sources are found. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:07, 13 September 2020 (UTC).
 * Keep. I have cited some sources in the article, but have by no means exhausted what is available. I must add that the subject is certainly unusual (not that that necessarily equates to notability) in that he was a Protestant priest and academic in an overwhelmingly Catholic country that was under Communist rule for much of his career. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, being a minority somewhere is not that unusual. In fact, there were used to be sizable Protestant communities in heavily Germanized parts of Poland and Lithuania, dwindled during the post-WWII remapping of the Europe and population transfers. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Tentative delete pending clarification whether the newly added sources do cover the subject in detail, not just refbombing with simple mentions (no disrespect to Phil, I often do the same as a quick defense at AfDs :-), but I usually try to expand quickly afterwards, or at leas promise to do this. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There is significant coverage in the book by Krzysztof Jan Rej, with a biography of the subject on pages 187-188 (click "view all" here to see it). The coverage in the other sources is lesser. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * the book you found is a kinda who is who book of narrow interest and small publisher, of evangelist military priests (he was one for a short time), all of them of questionable notability, and I still still do not see him notable for wikipedia, being in not very high ranks. Staszek Lem (talk) 06:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep-- there is also another book with his bio here: pl:Karol_Wolfram. There would be more sources had not so many Polish protestants been relocated to Siberia, East Germany, or killed. Also see worldcat for his works.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 22:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Source Phil found seems reliable and in-depth, plus a bunch of mentions in passing, some possibly longer, but hard to verify due to Google Book snippets view. Not submitting to Polish Wikipedia AfD as being a professor gurantees notability on pl wiki (yes, our criteria are more strict). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  06:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


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