Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karwan-I-Islami


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The result was no consensus. Woefully little participation after three relists. RL0919 (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Karwan-I-Islami

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Non-notable religious organisation that also runs a high school for around 100 students. Mentioned by local media a couple of times – just like many nonprofits and schools all over the world get mentioned in local media on occasion – but I haven't been able to find anything suggestive of lasting notability per WP:NCORP. No corresponding articles on ur-wiki or ks-wiki either. — kashmīrī  TALK  00:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. —  kashmīrī  TALK  00:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —  kashmīrī  TALK  00:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment NCORP is inappropriate; WP:NONPROFIT is the appropriate guideline to apply here. The founder of the organisation appears notable with multi-year coverage.   "Karwan-e-Islami (KeI), one of the largest religious organisations in Jammu and Kashmir." (although DNA India can be questionable as a source) ATD would be redirect to Ghulam Rasool Hami.  I searched only in English, would assume further sourcing available in Urdu, Kashmiri and Hindi.


 * Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 07:17, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:NONPROFIT is a subsection of WP:NCORP. Anyhow, it fails WP:NONPROFIT criterion 1, too, since it is certainly not an international NGO (unless India and Kashmir are considered two separate countries).
 * Hami is borderline notable IMO. But just borderline. The vast majority of people quoted by journalists in everyday reporting are not suitable for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. — kashmīrī  TALK  10:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a distinction between the NCORP and NONPROFIT regarding thresholds for notability. Also, NB under "additional considerations": "Some organizations are local in scope, but have achieved national or even international notice." Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yet the organisation in question does not fulfil either. — kashmīrī  TALK  11:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:27, 16 December 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:41, 24 December 2021 (UTC) Relisting comment: Bold third relist for further input. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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