Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasay


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Tita (singer). Given the number of times this has been recreated, I'm tempted to salt it, but I'll hold off on that for now. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Kasay

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Redirect now reverted multiple times, and still no chance of an article, fails GNG and NSONG. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 17:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  KGirl  (Wanna chat?) 17:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions.  KGirl  (Wanna chat?) 17:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:24, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Extensive independent media coverage has been added. Feel free to check the sources. ^^^^ User_talk:LoVeCa3 19:27, 22 August 2017.


 * Delete with possible redirect to Tita (singer). The song was released three months ago and has yet to chart. As Notability (music) says: A single requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That a single is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. This article fails to illustrate any stand alone notability. Dammitkevin (talk) 17:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

There are tons of other singles which have a Wikipedia article, but have failed to chart anywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Just_Wanna <- Great example here. Should we considering deleting these as well? Or 10 million views on a verified(!) YouTube channel with additional references from four independent Bulgarian media outlets aren't enough to qualify as being "notable"? Pretty discriminating IMO. User_talk:LoVeCa3 19:40, 22 August 2017.
 * Except the example you give has in fact charted. And WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Richard3120 (talk) 18:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

PS: I found a relatively "notable" Bulgarian mainstream radio chart, where the song has ranked at number 32. http://www.njoy.bg/bg/charts/view/9/radio_n_joy_top_40/ The following source should be taken under very serious consideration as well. http://www.prophon.org/display.php?en/search_form/TITA User_talk:LoVeCa3 19:40, 22 August 2017.
 * Delete Redirect to Tita (singer): article creator says "feel free to check the sources" – well, I did. First reference is from Nova TV, Bulgaria's major commercial TV network, so it's probably RS. However, it's mainly about Tita starring in an online drama series – mention of the song is limited to "it's just been released" and "it's already proving very popular on the internet". Second and third sources are just mirrors of the first. Fourth source again says "new single has been released" and "it's expected to get one million views on the internet". Fifth source is from a blog, and talks about her appearance on Bulgarian daytime TV to promote the song, and that Tita says, "My message with this song to my fans is to break with all the notions of what they themselves should be, ignore all the dogmas imposed by parents and loved ones. My message is to believe in myself and to dismiss all stereotypes." – so not an independent view of the song, or anything that demonstrates its notability. And the final two references are links to where the song can be bought online. So basically, regardless of whether the sources are reliable or not, all coverage boils down to "the song has been released, and is expected to be popular". PROPHON is Bulgaria's performing rights society, so that just proves the existence of the song, not its notability. Fails WP:NSONG. Richard3120 (talk) 13:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tita (singer). Apparently fails WP:NSONG. Hayman30 (talk) 11:58, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.