Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kase cobain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 05:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Kase cobain

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Prod Tag Removed. This artist appears to fail WP:NOTE. &lowast; \ / (⁂) 05:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete (if not speedy). Fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC. Chief assertion of notability is as US Taekwondo champion, however a search for "Taekwondo" +"Kase Cobain" produces one hit. Also claims to be a rapper: search for "Diamonds and Guns" +"Kase Cobain" produces 120 hits. pablo hablo. 06:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I realised that I should have searched for the taekwondo under his real name: +"Keary Watson" +taekwondo produces one relevant hit, and here it is:, which I don't think satisfies notability guidelines for sport. pablo hablo. 09:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

This article is subject to deletion for invaluable reasons. The information is accurate and verifiable through online search of each fact. Artist has used various names during his career and has made valuable contributions to his artform. A statement was made that Kase Cobain appears to be a myspace and youtube artist which has no bearing on the validity of the statements or the accomplishments of the artist. I would site myspace.com as the source of numerous platinum selling records/ artists in today's music market. Examples: Tila Tequila, Ciara, Soulja Boi.

Kase Cobain (Keary Watson) participated in the 2000 US Olympic Team Trials for the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games after which Nike Athletics selected him for an add campaign which placed billboards with his image in all US and Japan Niketown stores. He is respected as a fellow professional by music industry and players from LA to New York. I feel that its important that the editors here be educated on the current status of the industry they are reviewing before deciding wether or not a person has made the grade or not. Please take these points into consideration.

"Keary Kase" generates 1,840 hits "Keary Kase"+"Life Of A Star" generates 425 "Keary Kase"+"Oowee" generates 161 hits "Keary Kase"+"Live Fast Die Hard" generates 171 hits "Kase Cobain" generates 14000+ hits "Kase Cobain"+"Diamonds And Guns"generates 396 hits —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasecobain (talk • contribs) 08:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment
 * Not if you include the inverted commas to search for the exact strings:
 * "Keary Kase" generates 1,840 500 hits
 * +"Keary Kase"+"Life Of A Star" generates 425 65
 * +"Keary Kase"+"Oowee" generates 161 120 hit
 * +"Keary Kase"+"Live Fast Die Hard" generates 171 1 hit
 * +"Kase Cobain" generates 14000+ 1,080 hits
 * +"Kase Cobain"+"Diamonds And Guns"generates 396 119 hits
 * Many artists do achieve success through Myspace and Youtube, but I don't think this one has done so yet. pablo hablo. 09:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per pablo and per lack of independent third-party references. A random number of hits alone isn't going to persuade people. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. One reference above demonstrates his achievements in tae kwon do, apparently competing with some success at the highest level of the sport in the US which meets the requirements of WP:ATHLETE.  There's also an independent reference here about his career as a rapper and as manager of an escort agency.  Article needs cleanup work, but that is not a reason to delete it. JulesH (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:Athlete says
 * People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis.
 * People who have competed at the highest amateur level of a sport, usually considered to mean the Olympic Games or World Championships.
 * "taking part in the trials" for the Olympics isn't really competing at the highest amateur level. pablo hablo. 16:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

The US National Team Trials is not an "open" tournament. It is an invitational exclusive to elite (professional) level competitors who have been victorious at National Championships sanctioned by the governing body (formerly USTU). Again, the number of hits reported by those disputing this article are inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasecobain (talk • contribs) 19:35, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Google hits != notability. &lowast; \ / (⁂) 00:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete A listing on a self-published tae kwon do school website does not meet the sourcing standards for a biography of a living person. A single article doesn't meet the "significant coverage" in reliable sources requirement for establishing notability. dissolve  talk  08:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


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