Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasi Kingdom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Kingdom of Kashi. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Kasi Kingdom

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This article is just a collection of quotes from Hindu texts. There's another article which deals with the exact same subject. Kielbasa1 (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * When you see duplicate articles then Duplicate articles should be your first port of call, not AFD. Uncle G (talk) 14:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 18:37, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Kingdom of Kashi is about the historic kingdom of Kashi, the present city of Varanasi, while Kasi Kingdom of Ancient India, is one that finds mention in ancient Hindu texts, as the intro and the subsequent texts mention of both clarify and are thus distinct. Needs disambig note on top that's all! Ekabhishektalk 08:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge -- An article consisting solely of quotations from Hindu epics is non-encyclopaedic; they should perhasp be in Wikisource. I do not know Hindi or Sanscrit, but strongly suspect that the differnece between the two names is a matter of transliteration.  Accordingly, both should be in the same article, with a short narrative of what the epics say of the mythical ancient kingdom, followed by a further section on the historic one.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Kingdom of Kashi. VasuVR  ( talk,  contribs ) 04:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, but the problems are huge. Here are some concepts here:
 * As user:Ekabhishek says, Kasi Kingdom is being used to refer to a legendary city found in ancient texts. The dates of this kingdom are near the time or Rama and long before, so around 7300 BCE by Hindu thought.
 * The Kingdom of Kashi refers to the same geographical location during the rule of some people less closely affiliated with ancient texts. This was around 1100-1800 CE, so thousands of years later.
 * Varanasi is the current international name of the city at this location, although local people call it Benares and most Indians elsewhere call it Kashi.
 * Kashi is also the present day name of a specific district in Varanasi.
 * This Afd is for Kasi Kingdom, and the article is poorly sourced and lists a lot of mentions in sacred texts. As user:Peterkingiron says, the article needs huge reform, but there does exist a huge body of primarily religious texts describing these places and literally centuries of commentary about this place.  In addition, there is an advent of modern-day scholarship about what Kasi Kingdom is supposed to mean to modern-day Hindus.
 * A lot needs to be done to this article, but deletion or merging is not among those things.  Blue Rasberry  21:59, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.