Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:GARAGE. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 03:32, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Kasland

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no indication of meeting notability guidelines. Twitter and facebook are not WP:reliable sources - no significant coverage in any of the given references. Disputed prod. noq (talk) 09:34, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Reliable sources have been added. Kasland is a notable hip hop recording artist who has been included in soundtracks for various video games, was included on a hit single reaching the billboards top 100 alongside with Soulja Boy, and is a verified celebrity on Twitter. Kasland is also the founder of the charitable campaign known as Saints For Strokes to help raise funds and awareness for strokes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.175.187 (talk) 07:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC) — 24.9.175.187 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment I am failing to see the reliable sources you added. The two references currently in the article either are his own website or a page that does not mention him. noq (talk) 09:04, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The one reference actually does mention him providing proof that he was included on the I Stay Fresh mixtape by YUMS with his "Taste My Yums" track (track 14) that can be seen clearly listed on the back side cover art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.175.187 (talk) 10:45, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah I have found the insignificant mention of the name in a graphic posted on a blog. And this is significant why? noq (talk) 11:33, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you provide the clothing lines that have sponsored you and featured you on their mixtapes? I am sorry his success is such a tragedy to you, but there are real fans who would like to have a reliable source of information on Kasland. I see many pages on here with much less "sources" and information than this one. Perhaps you should look into dedicating your life to having those removed as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.175.187 (talk) 11:52, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I am not making any claims to be notable, I have worked for several large companies but so what. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in WP:reliable sources that establish notability - without that the article does not belong here. Also, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. noq (talk) 12:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:42, 26 September 2012 (UTC)



delete No reliable sources, career to this point is unreliable.Righteousskills (talk) 19:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

STAY - DO NOT DELETE KASLAND PAGE, CAREER IS GROWING FAST AND WORTH THE RECOGNITION: I cannot believe so much time has been spent in trying to remove Kasland's page. This is so silly, he is an upcoming artist who is verified on Facebook,verified on Twitter, has been mentioned with the Gears of War interviews from Cliffy B, posted his song Bring It On on the Gears of War Website, a huge discussion on the Gears of War forums, and his song Bring It On was featured on G4 TV commercial used by Gears of War and a huge hit,he is a member of the IMDB and listed a potential cast for the Gears of War Movie, he is currently working with THQ on the Saints Row soundtrack, was just recently interviewed by a Canadian Hip Hop magazine, featured on the YUMS shoes mixtape put out, and in discussion with a shoe company for sponorship currently. I have seen other artists with their own page and have as little or less. Why delete Kasland page, I say let him build, he is buzzing and building daily, it would only be a waste of time to remove this and have to put it right back up shortly. Kasland worked with Bobby Lashley, Bobby Brown both celebrities and more coming for his music videos and they did not feel he was not worthy. His work for supporting awareness for strokes is very honorable and important as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.87.122 (talk) 13:48, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:GARAGE. noq (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

KEEP - There is no reason to delete Kasland's page when people like Traphik who is also respected in the YouTube community has one. They are both verified on Twitter. Both have official websites. Kasland can even be seen on YouTube in footage with Bobby Brown of Dog The Bounty Hunter and Bobby Lashley. Obviously people know of Kasland because this is not the first time the page was created; whoever is trying to get this page deleted is most likely a bitter ex-fan who didn't get an autograph. I am a fan of Kasland and have been following his career for years, it would break my heart to see this Wikipedia page deleted for it is very very much true and legitimate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.216.62 (talk) 18:03, 4 October 2012 (UTC) — 71.80.216.62 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * KEEP - Garage.....I think not. Kasland has an EP on ITUNES and I personally own one of the hard copies as well, he is not standing on a corner asking for donations instead he is being paid and registered with BMI collecting his royalties and he is signed with Post Oak Records which is an independent record label but an established record label.  Kasland is not doing this for pleasure and is paid for his soundtracks they are not donations.  Get a life.....try letting his fans read about him!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.87.122 (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2012 (UTC) — 208.46.87.122 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Well as Post Oak Records is his own company and does not seem to be very visible on google that does not seem very reliable. And having an an EP on itunes is specifically addressed in the WP:GARAGE article. noq (talk) 19:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * -Wow first off I happen to know that the company was in someone other than Kasland's name due to his age at the time, he never gained ownership and left the label with them so no he does not own the company. As for Google and Post Oak Records not being very visible well since Post Oak Records is not the one getting the Wikipedia page that would not matter but since you brought that up, Kasland is on over 50 pages of Google so WOW.....he must be someone ya think??????????  And all the artists that make up ITUNES are non important and again as I mentioned I OWN A PHYSICAL COPY OF THE CD which was purchased in an independent record store.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.87.122 (talk) 19:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * His linkedin page claims he is CEO of the company. You claimed Post Oak as being an established record label - that seems unlikely given the search results on it. Assuming thee default google page size, 50 pages is only 500 hits - not a great many. Being on iTunes is not enough to be considered notable. And just because a CD exists does not make the artist or the CD notable. noq (talk) 20:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Here you go genius, how about a real resource? http://www.postoakrecords.com/history coming from the companies website rather than your "LinkedIn" profile that anyone could have created and nowhere do I see Kasland showing to have a LinkedIn page. Once again you argue about a CD similar to the label which is irrelevant seeing how this is about a Kasland page, not his CD or label. I would have been with you, but the reliable sources seem to have grown enough for me to stick with my original opinion. I am not surprised to see you are still dedicating every moment of your life to trying to delete this page, but you seem to be running low on ammunition. My final vote is keep! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.175.187 (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * keep It's about time there is a reliable source to look up information on Kasland. This page needs to stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.84.211 (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

.....KEEP.....This is insane please someone with a brain put this to rest...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.46.87.122 (talk) 21:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

KEEP When you do a Google search of Kasland, what do you get? The top result being his official website which is followed by his Facebook, Twitter, and MySpace page. When you do a Google search of Post Oak Records, what do you get? Hmmm? How about the top result being their OFFICIAL website. Do you really think that some garage band or garage record label is going to be at the top of the results if you did a Google search? Or what about Bing...that's supposed to be the best search engine right? Again...Kasland's official website is listed at the top. You will also find that Post Oak Records' official website can be found as the very first result on Bing. If Keak Da Sneak, an Oakland, CA native who ONLY has regional success can have a Wikipedia page, why shouldn't Kasland? End Of Discussion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.216.62 (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * So google searches provide a list of what are explicitly defined as not WP:reliable sources? This does not help establish notability. The flurry of activity from anonymous users that have not contributed anything other than to this page normally indicates a call for support on a forum somewhere. Be aware that the afd process is not a vote and that arguments should be based on policy rather than WP:ILIKEIT and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. noq (talk) 23:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I normally don't edit posts on Wikipedia because I didn't have to. But when I saw this page was possibly going to be deleted, I decided to. But one question, How come you've yet to answer BOTH of the previous questions I've had in my previous statements. A) If artists like Traphik who are respected in the online community can have a Wikipedia page, why can't Kasland? B) If Keak da Sneak, an Oakland, CA native with only regional success can have a wikipedia page, why can't Kasland?

D-Pryde has a Wikipedia entry and he is not even VERIFIED on Twitter. Ellen Degeneres is verified on Twitter, she has a Wikipedia page. D-Pryde doesn't even have physical copies of his album/mixtape on the market, Kasland does. Since I am no longer anonymous, maybe you can do me the courtesy to actually ANSWER those questions instead of ignoring them and passing me off as some member of a forum. I have a life unlike the likes of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJB1993 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * As before, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument for keeping this article. Also as previously stated, Twitter is not considered a WP:reliable source. Please read the articles I have linked to as they explain why your arguments are not valid in this context. noq (talk) 09:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Delete -- the article fails Wikipedia reliable sourcing criteria for WP:BLP and notability criteria for BAND and GNG. A search finds no substantial coverage of this person by significant independent reliable sources. (And interested IPs above have not provided any.) Maybe someday this person will be notable enough for an article -- but that doesn't appear to be today. — Cactus Writer (talk) 19:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Delete per other delete !votes. Sources do nothing to prove notability, and at least one looks unreliable. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Comment -- The IPs voting keep all have a similar writing style and keep parroting the same reasons for keeping. I can tell its fall from all the quacking. Livewireo (talk) 21:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is one IP that is repeatedly voting. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, its one person under different IPs. I apologize if I wasn't clear. But we obviously came to the same conclusion. Livewireo (talk) 21:42, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.