Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasper T. Toeplitz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Kasper T. Toeplitz

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This article about a music composer includes no references, doesn't appear to be notable, no reliable and independent sources available, page appears to have been created and mostly written by its subject. Conical Johnson (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep – Sorry to disagree here, but I found a number of articles and references concerning this individual, as shown here. Granted most, if not all, are in French.  However, they are from third party – creditable – reliable and verifiable sources. I'll start sourcing over the next day or two.  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 12:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - No need to be sorry, I'd rather have the page if can be shown to be notable and can be sourced. If there are only French sources, though, perhaps this means this guy is not notable for English Wikipedia? I'm not really sure what the policy is there, WP:NONENG doesn't really elaborate. For example, an American high school might be relevent enough to warrant a page on English WP, but not on French WP since it is so far removed from relevence in French culture.Conical Johnson (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the word English in "English Wikipedia" only refers to the language we use to write. It has no bearing on the topics we should include. Policies and guidelines about referencing and sources say that English language sources are preferred where available, but that sources in any language are acceptable. - Mgm|(talk) 09:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, I don't speak French, but I took a look at his French WP page and I can tell that he wrote it with basically the exact same wording as he wrote his English page, which was terrible before I rewrote it. If anyone who can write French well would like to redo his page using my English version as a guide, that would be great. He didn't write it in an encyclopedic way at all, more like an artist statement, and further, he writes about some of his achievements, especially the "BassComputer" as if it were some revolutionary new instrument design which is at once a bass and a computer. In fact, it's simply a custom bass which he interfaces with a computer, something that many thousands of people do every day.Conical Johnson (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as per Shoessss. Sources indicate notability, it doesn't matter what language they are in. Edward321 (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Shoessss. - Ret.Prof (talk) 15:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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