Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasymbek (given name)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "keep" opinions don't address the reasons for deletion.  Sandstein  11:25, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Kasymbek (given name)

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Article was proposed for deletion with the rationale: "We have no biography of someone bearing this name so it's hard to believe that it is as common as claimed. All three references are garbage." Article author removed PROD, so taking it to AFD with the same rationale. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:11, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 *  Delete. I originally put the PROD tag and stand by my rationale. Pichpich (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as a valid given name article per WP:APONOTE. Now there are articles about people with the name: Kasymbek Yeshmambetov and Kasymbek Medievich Mediev. Uanfala (talk) 23:59, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that the references are useless. Remove them, trim the article, and transform it into a disambiguation page. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 20:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I understand the rationale behind this AfD but suspect that it could be a valid disambig page, albeit confused with the complexities of transliteration from other languages where phonetic representations are spelled differently depending on the recorded or dialect used. There may also be issues of mutations within the language that change critical letters (c.f Welsh where Melin = Felin depending on context)  Velella  Velella Talk 20:48, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment As only one person with this name exists at en.wiki (the second article was deleted per WP:CSD), WP:APONOTE no longer applies. Further, the page's creator has been blocked as a sockpuppet (see Sockpuppet investigations/Оразбаев Касымбек/Archive, so WP:CSD applies to this page as well (and has been applied). Finally, as there is no verifiable evidence that "Kasymbek" and "Qasim bey" are, in fact, linguistically similar names, there does not appear to be a rationale for this page's existence that can't be chalked up to original research. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:12, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * , WP:G5 only applies to pages created by a blocked user in violation of their block. Anything they created before getting blocked isn't eligible. Uanfala (talk) 14:20, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps technically so, although it is common that all pages created by the sock farm are deleted based on the discovery of the sock puppetry. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 01:18, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Is this current practice? Then maybe these pages get deleted for reasons other than G5, and if there aren't such reasons, then there's abuse of process. Uanfala (talk) 06:17, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know why WikiDan61 thinks that it is common practice to delete pages created by sockpuppets even if there was no block at the time of page creation. I have no memory of seeing that done. (Naturally, I am not referring to rare occasions when an administrator makes a mistake, and as often as not restores the page when he or she realises.) It is certainly true that pages are very often nominated for deletion by editors who think that G5 applies to any pages created by sockpuppets, but such nominations are normally declined. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. We have only one article for someone with this name (Kasymbek Yeshmambetov) now, so while it might be a valid disambiguation page per WP:APONOTE there isn't much to disambiguate.  We could create a redirect to Kasymbek Yeshmambetov but I don't think that really makes sense.  There's also a geographic Kasymbek to add to the confusion.  FalconK (talk) 08:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. We have one article about someone with this name, so evidently it exists, but there is no evidence that the name is common. It is totally out of keeping with Wikipedia practice and policy to keep an article because someone "suspects" it could be a useful disambiguation page; that is, in fact, very similar to saying "Keep.There must be sources" without actually providing any sources. All of the "keep" arguments are based on the idea that there are plural articles about people with this name (one of them explicitly mentions two articles, and the others suggest it could become a disambiguation page), but in fact there is only one, so all of those reasons fail. (I also see that the section Articles of the page WikiProject Anthroponymy/Standards casts doubt on whether an article about a name like this, with just one article about someone of that name, should exist. Personally I attach limited weight to pages on "WikiProjects", which are often read and edited by only a limited self-selecting group of editors, but it is further evidence that there is consensus at least among a range of editors against an article in this situation.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * Note: there's an AfD for a very similar article at Articles for deletion/Qasymbek (given name). – Uanfala (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note I've recreated a trimmed down version of this article at Qasymbek. – Uanfala (talk) 10:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)