Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katanga Express Gulfstream Crash


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 17:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Katanga Express Gulfstream Crash

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Non notable small aircraft crash. Fails WP:AirCrash ...William 16:21, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  ...William 16:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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 *  Delete  one of many non-notable business jet accidents, doesnt appear to have killed anybody with a wiki article or hit anything important. MilborneOne (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to Keep see discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - the fatalities don't have to be celebrities with Wikipedia articles for an air crash to be notable, you know… - Andrew (My talk) 23:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I would have to disagree in most articles about aircrashes notability of occupants is normally measured by them having a wikipedia article. MilborneOne (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It is abundantly clear from the sources that one of the dead should have a Wikipedia article, as a former provincial governor and current chief advisor to the president of a major country, and two of the injured as the finance minister and a provincial governor. Notability is certainly not measured by already having a Wikipedia article - this encyclopedia is far from complete. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Understood and per the page listed by Bushranger change my delete to Keep. MilborneOne (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per the general notability guideline, and per common sense as killing at least one and injuring at least two clearly notable people. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep' - WP:AIRCRASH is met as at least one of those killed, Matata Ponyo Mapon, is a Wikinotable person. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * CommentI didn't know about Mapon when making this AFD nomination. Right now I'm willing to withdraw it, but did Mapon die in this crash? The two articles cited in his article don't say he died....William 14:43, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I checked the sources in Mapon's article, and couldn't find any statement that he actually died in the crash. All of the sources I found in the article stated he was 'heavily injured'. Klilidiplomus+Talk 14:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, I misread it. However, Antoine Ngonda, who was killed, is almost certainly notable enough to have an article. (pre-crash refs:, , , , , and lots more in French.) - The Bushranger One ping only 19:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep' - per Bushranger's rationale and also per WP:Notability, the minister of a country's government and his death in that WP:AIRCRASH dictates that the article be kept. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 22:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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