Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kate Harper (The West Wing)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of characters in The West Wing. Also, the nom is correct; the plain Kate Harper should be a dab since there is a notable living person with a similar name. I'll fix that shortly. Black Kite (talk) 10:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Kate Harper (The West Wing)

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Nominate for deletion This has been unreferenced and tagged for notability concerns for 5 years. There is nothing in it to make it clear that the character deserves its own entry. I think Kate Harper should be a dab between a link to the relevant section of List of characters in The West Wing and Kate M. Harper. Boleyn (talk) 20:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 May 20.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  20:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy close- As wrong venue. Nomination rationale doesn't meet Deletion policy, but falls under Proposed mergers to List of characters in The West Wing, and a hatnote/redirect at Kate M. Harper can guide readers who've gone off course. Dru of Id (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Boldly rewrite as a dab between the two names. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't delete the title — no opinion on keeping the article, but if this is not kept as an article, it's a likely enough search target that it should be redirected to the character list. Nyttend (talk) 12:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge and trout some people over getting lost in bureaucracy. AfD is a perfectly good place to disuss whether something should be deleted or merged. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 21:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge. And do the same with all the West Wing character articles. In 20 years someone is going to shake their head when seeing this articles. Articles about fictional television characters that the overwhelming majority of people will say 'huh' when asked who they were....William 00:07, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Notability is not temporary. Strong oppose to any general proposal to merge fictional character articles across Wikipedia without considering the notability of the individual subject. If the subject of this particular article doesn't meet WP:GNG, then sure merge, but to suggest merge just because you personally don't think anyone will be interested in the subject in a distance future is just not a valid reason. -- KTC (talk) 12:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Notability is temporary in real life lets not kid ourselves. Some fad notable in its day, and characters on this six-years ago cancelled television series on this moderately popular show never had the popularity on the level of a fad, are all but forgotten after a period of time passes....William 19:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll say a show that was broadcasted in over 20 countries and which won 3 Golden Globe Awards and 26 Emmy Awards among others are more than just a moderately popular show, but that's just me. Anyhow, that doesn't matter in terms of whether a subject meets the criteria for inclusion on the English Wikipedia. If we go by your standard, most of the articles on Wikipedia can be deleted including pretty much all of those on historical subjects. KTC (talk) 22:07, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge Certainly a major show, but not a major character. But i want to point out that WilliamJe's comment has things essentially wrong side uyp.: in 20 years people indeed are not going to know who the characters are in the immediate way most of use know now as part of out surrounding popular culture. when they come across a reference to them, and want to find out, they will turn to an encyclopedia than includes popular culture --popular culture not just of the period when we started writing it, but of all  periods, early and later. That's what encyclopedias are good for; that's why we care about writing one, that;s why we care about improving its quality and preserving it.  If all we cared about was what matters to us at the moment, this wouldn't be much of a project.  DGG ( talk ) 08:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge Maratrean (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of characters in The West Wing. The character name, role (brief), actor name, and appearances (again, brief) would be more than sufficient in the list. The remaining material is exclusively unsourced fan oriented and not notable. --Tgeairn (talk) 18:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect (or Delete, or Merge) to the list of characters article. FWIW I would support doing the same for most articles about supporting characters, across all media. - Frankie1969 (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge and summarize as a compromise. Not enough objective evidence to WP:verify notability so a stand-alone article is inappropriate. Shooterwalker (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.