Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kate Heartfield


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:10, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Kate Heartfield

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:AUTHOR. Most of the sources are self-published, or make brief mention of her. This source has detail, but is a primary source interview. As well, this source has some depth, but is published in a fanzine. This person is an excellent writer, who through her work as a journalist, is well published in a variety of Canadian newspapers (as would be expected from a competent journalist...I mean, that's her job, writing newspaper articles with her name in the by-line). Unfortunately, in the absence of any significant biographical details about her published in secondary sources, being a hard working journalist is not enough to establish notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:20, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * delete  She had a successful career in journalism although perhaps not a notable one Kate Heartfield, James Gordon leaving Ottawa Citizen; has published short fiction; and has two novels under contract, albeit not yet published.  However, writing credits  ≠ WP notability and she lacks WP:SIGCOV.  It looks like a case of WP:TOOSOON.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's no solid reliable sourcing being cited here at all. The article is referenced mostly to primary sources, blogs, podcasts and content where she's the bylined author rather than the subject — and the only two sources that are acceptable for use as Wikipedia references at all (Tor and the Ottawa Citizen) still have problems, because the Tor piece just namechecks her existence without being about her, while the Citizen piece is about her work for the Citizen and thus isn't independent of her. And the article claims nothing about her that would constitute an automatic free pass over WP:AUTHOR in the absence of better sourcing than this, either. A writer is not automatically eligible for a Wikipedia article just because she exists — she has to pass an AUTHOR criterion, and she has to have reliable source coverage about her for it, for an article to become earned. Bearcat (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above. TL;DR notability is when subjects are written about, not when subjects write about other things. Ifnord (talk) 16:53, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - The artsfile source is the only one there that is also about her, rather than just about her writings. Proving notability would require more biographical media coverage. With the upcoming books, likely WP:TOOSOON. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  18:12, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


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