Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katherine Carson


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 08:46, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Katherine Carson

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Being Miss Florida is not enough to pass notability guidelines for biographies, and the article clearly fails the general notability guidelines. Neither of the links in the article currently go to any content on Carson. I was able to dig up an article in the local St. Petersberg Times on her, which mainly existed because as the winner of Miss Largo before winning Miss Florida she was local to St. Petersberg. It is not enough on its own to justify having an article on her, and it is the only source I could find that mentioned her beyond fact checking she was Miss Florida at one point. Even by the standards of articles on state winners of beauty pageants this is an extremely weak one. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete -- no indications of notability or significance. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I added sources showing her selection to Miss Largo, serving a title reign as Miss Florida and competing for Miss America. Trackinfo (talk) 16:42, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 20:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  05:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:52, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Wrong venue This is not a problem that needs the attention of AfD, as merge is an alternative to deletion, and the article has been improved since nomination, so the nomination should be withdrawn.  I read the entire edit history without seeing any concerns about notability, and there is no discussion on the talk page of the article.  It has been the common practice of the authors of Beauty Pageant articles to present the winners in standalone articles, and this common practice does not create a "gotcha" argument for deletion, which damages the encyclopedia in its coverage of beauty pageant winners and discourages content contributors from contributing to beauty pageant articles.  WP:IGNORINGATD is applicable, as WP:Deletion policy and WP:Deletion policy are policies.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment -- winning Miss Largo does not add to subject's notability; the article is still essentially A7 material. Here's the article in its entirety:


 * Delete as the 1 Keep vote simply states sourcing exists which is not a policy and what is in fact policy is WP:NOT because we're not a listing or webhost which is why there's nothing else here but the simplest "participation" information. There's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else and there's no exceptions for someone who merely participated. Also the other comment above simply asserts "AfD is not the place for this" but it in fact is, since questionable articles are taken to AfD hence why we're here. Next, the fact no one has actually showed how she's independently notable for her own substantial article, and enough time has come where someone would've shown for it. SwisterTwister   talk  03:04, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


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