Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathleen Elle


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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Kathleen Elle

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. At best, way WP:TOOSOON. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:06, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep She has won multiple national awards and has been covered in multiple reliable sources. Keep. As an aside, I also think you lose accuracy when you cover artists too retrospectively.Lhcollins (talk) 19:47, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MUSICBIO. Kathleen Elle doesn't meet the notability criteria for musicians. Additionally, one of the citations used in the article is a press release. The NJ.com source also seems to be covering local news (the singer is from Jersey) . Eliko007 (talk) 21:40, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete As a teenager won a Seventeen Magazine sponsored songwriting contest with an anti-bullying song, which lead to a spate or "local teen makes good" type coverage, scholarships, and dutiful airplay on an open-submission NPR program. It's a meager accomplish to attempt to confer encyclopedia importence. Otherwise, subsequent self-released music has not gained significant attention. Agree with he assessment that, at best, WP:TOOSOON. ShelbyMarion (talk) 08:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete, The coverage are mostly local, fails notability, I agree with WP:TOOSOON. Alex-h (talk) 08:26, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep.She has won numerous awards and has received press from multiple mainstream news sources. And since the mainstream press and entertainment establishment leans left politically, her championing identity politics and other leftist causes will insure that she keeps racking up awards, attendant press and expands her audience - regardless if there are more talented artists.Knox490 (talk) 00:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * FYI, Knox490 (talk) This article cited 3 awards, but one was cited in error, per the source. She merely submitted an entry to the contest, but did not win, (I duly removed this content from the article.) The other 2 awards were: a magazine/hygiene product co-sponsored contest (which included an additional "award" of a scholarship from a clothing company) and a cash-prize contest for college students from a multi-media production company's foundation. (See: .) Neither are considered major/signficant awards in the music industry or social awareness community. Just pointing it out if you want to consider removing the award rationale as one of the reasons for your i-vote. ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ShelbyMarion, thanks for the feedback which I appreciate. But I do think she will keep on getting press. People are starting to be turned off by the leftist political agenda of the mainstream press and trust in media in all countries has taken a dive. And now record amount of newspapers are shutting their doors and left leaning news outlets are losing viewers (CNN, Rachel Madow, etc.). But the process of reforming the press is going to take time. Right-wing populism is growing in Europe/US/world, but I don't think there is a commenerate growth of media outlets growing to meet the demand. Markets take time to develop. In other words, pent up demand eventually creates a supply.Knox490 (talk) 03:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


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