Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathy Keller


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that the article does not meet the notability guidelines. Davewild (talk) 17:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Kathy Keller

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:CREATIVE. Antigng (talk) 12:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I am the article creator. Thank you for your guidance as I work through this task. Today I reviewed the bios of about 100 other living romance authors to see what the prevailing standard is for meeting the criteria. The living person who is subject of the article compares favorably with regard to notability with dozens of her colleagues but my article lacked references.  I added a number of references to news articles on the author and made some minor modifications to the article. I added a reference to her early work where she produced three videos (currently out of print) on the business aspects of publishing.  I'm still confused by the statement that the subject of my article fails the definition as a creative professional. She has, for example, published a body of work, several of these novels through the same publisher as numerous others already listed in Wikipedia. I'm also confused by this article failing Basic. Hopefully the references I added will resolve this. Numerous listed authors in Wikipedia use blog articles as their sources whereas I have added sources such as the Orlando Sentinel. If you can offer me further guidance, I would appreciate it. For example, is an author with a following by fans only considered notable when she publishes a specific number of books?  If not, I will seek help in rescuing the article from someone more understanding of the process than I. This author has published six full length novels, each heavily researched and based on historical events. Her work has been reviewed online on widely used sites from Amazon to GoodReads. She has a following of loyal readers and is, based on the Wikipedia articles I reviewed today, as notable as many of her peers. I just need clarification in exactly why the editor thinks this is not the case so I can decide whether to continue or to withdraw the article. Thank you.Livingmydream (talk) 00:09, 8 June 2015 (UTC)Livingmydream
 * Comment. It's very likely that there are other romance author articles that do not fulfill the notability criterion listed, and could very well be candidates for deletion. In terms of WP:CREATIVE, it is not a claim that Keller is not a creative professional, but rather, that she is one, but does not meet the guidelines for notability for creative professionals. In the WP:CREATIVE section, there's a list of four criteria for authors, and (by my knowledge) Keller doesn't seem to fulfill any of them. Similarly, she doesn't seem to fulfill the requirements in WP:BASIC. Without evidence of this type of notability, the article should be put up for deletion. Bordwall( talk &frasl; ctrb ) 20:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per nom. No information aside from the cited local interest pieces. Nothing to indicate general notability. Bordwall( talk &frasl; ctrb ) 20:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and move to userspace if willing - My searches (News, Books, browser, Highbeam and Thefreelibrary) found no good coverage to suggest solid notability. Considering some of the sources are from the 1980s-90s, they could be archived and unavailable but they may simply be minor, so in that case, it may only be wishful thinking that there are good sources. SwisterTwister   talk  06:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: Pathetic attempt at self-promotion using wikipedia. The Dissident Aggressor 04:46, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. After searching Google for the author, I can't seem to find any proper sources that indicate that the author is notable in any way, especially when looking at the WP:CREATIVE criteria. I cannot find any reviews either, professional or amateur ones (Goodreads, Amazon, etc.). I don't think that this article meets the standards laid out in the notability criteria. Qasaur (talk) 22:29, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


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