Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathy Shaidle


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The result was Keep (non-admin closure). Chetblong T C 03:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Kathy Shaidle

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Another one of Sheridan College's "Notable" alumni. May not meet WP:BIO. BLACK KITE  16:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Published author and journalist. (Also, at the time of my vote, no actual explanation given for deletion, save for WP:SARCASM) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Being published does not necessarily equal notability. Reason for deletion is, of course, possible failure to meet WP:BIO - I have clarified. Sarcasm is unfortunately easy to slip into when dealing with huge swathes of COI; of course some actually notable people will be involved here, and of course if that is the case, one would hope they'd be kept.  BLACK KITE  19:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with Shawn that the nomination is lacking.  However, I disagree with him that being published = notability.  If that were the case, I would have created an article on my mom long ago.  In this case, WP:BIO suggests that receiving "significant critical attention" or "significant recognized awards or honours" confers notability.  Shaidle was a finalist for the Governor General's Awards, which is a very significant literary award in this country (I have no idea if the Church Press awards are recognized or are notable).  It would be a slam dunk if she had won the award, but being a finalist is nothing to sneeze at.  Therefore, I am inclined to lean towards keep.   Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - until the nominator adopts a non-cryptic nomination: avoid cryptic language. Tarinth (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * D12000 added a reference, and I added a few as well. There are several write-ups about Shaidle and her books in major Canadian newspapers. There's enough for WP:N. Keep. -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 23:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I can not tell from the links how extensive the reference to her is--some of them seem from their title to be group articles--please provide some information on whether the coverage is significant.DGG (talk) 04:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The "Giggles and God-stuff" article is 142 words and talks only about her and her blog. The "Poet relates sacred images" article discusses only her book Lobotomy Magnificat. The "Five poets in search of a prize" article is (not surprisingly) 1/5 about Shaidle and her book. Hope that helps, -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 03:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 18:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - being a finalist for the GG award is a big deal in Canlit. -- Whpq (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - published author. Finalist for GG Award meets the WP:BIO "significant critical attention" criteria. Mention of Sheridan College alumni casts some doubt on the nominator's motivations. Franamax (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This is part of a batch of AfDs targeting several Sheridan College related articles. Dl2000 (talk) 05:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above - non-trivial secondary attention is established, with significant body of non self-pub work. Dl2000 (talk) 05:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


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