Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katie Hall (cyclist)


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The result was   keep; good job locating the additional sources. Mojo Hand (talk) 04:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Katie Hall (cyclist)

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Only coverage is routine and trivial. Does not meet WP:GNG and fails WP:NCYCLING. Tchaliburton (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - She doesn't quite satisfy WP:GNG notability requirements. The best source seems to be the United Health Care page, but unfortunately it's not an independent source.- MrX 17:11, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep The notability guidelines in WP:NCYCLING cover Mens professional cycling events and I don't think these accurately cover Womens cycling. For example, there is only one Womens Grand Tour currently running (Giro d'Italia Femminile), there are drastically fewer races than those which make up the Mens UCI continental circuits. Within the scope of Womens cycling I don't think notability can be judged on competing in Grand Tours, competing in any of the monuments or winning a stage/classification at a stage race because they either do not exist, are not as common as in Mens cycling or have only been running for a fraction of the time of the Mens events. In order to improve the coverage of Womens cycling on Wikipedia I think that a rider actively competing for a UCI Professional Women's team should be notable enough to have an article. XyZAn (talk) 17:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Would seem to pass WP:GNG. There's this article about her that I found in five seconds.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that a single local blog is enough to denote notability. Is there any other coverage of her? Tchaliburton (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There's another article, here and she's detailed on PCS XyZAn (talk) 14:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The first of those helps lend notability, but the latter two don't. Tchaliburton (talk) 15:51, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, she's slated to compete in the 2014 Giro d'Italia Femminile (see start list here) so would therefore meet the requirements set forth in WP:NCYCLING (even though this is for male cyclists you quoted this earlier) XyZAn (talk) 14:31, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Those are the male criteria. The gender-neutral criteria are: "Have competed at an Olympics or UCI World Championship" or "Have finished on the podium at a UCI World Cup or event." Has she done these? Tchaliburton (talk) 15:51, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 02:38, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Other sources include Cycling Illustrated, Canadian Cyclist, Bicycling Magazine, Pedal Magazine, Cycling Fans, combined with the in-depth sources, adds to notability. Two issues: her name is fairly common (there are other Katie Halls out there); also, the linkage between her racing and a business (United Healthcare) means there is unfortunately a promotional issue tied in with the subject, which can be problematic. About comments above, I agree Bicycle Story reference is not suitable but Norcal Cycling News and Bike World News are suitable, as per WP:RS.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


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