Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katsap (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 17:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Katsap
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Violates WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This is just an article about the meaning and usage of a word. This was recognized by the person closing the first AfD, but was closed as "no consensus" with the hope it might "expand." Which has not happened, and if it did would result in an article called something like "Prejudice against Russians in Eastern Europe," not "Katsap."  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wiktionary, which doesn't currently have an entry for "Katsap". Thryduulf (talk) 18:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has. It is at кацап. Uncle G (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A quick Google books search suggests that either "katsap" or "Katsap" is used in English-language texts. Thryduulf (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nonetheless, Wiktionary has the Ukrainian word in the proper alphabet for the Ukrainian language, per project (and indeed ordinary dictionary) standards. Uncle G (talk) 23:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but my point is that this appears to be a word, apparently borrowed from Ukrainian, that is used as an English word in English books in the Latin alphabet. Wiktionary does not have this English word, and the contents of this article on the English Wikipedia could be transwikied to form the basis of the English Wiktionary entry for the English word. Thryduulf (talk) 23:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per WP:DICTIONARY (Wikipedia is not a dictionary). Article does not extend beyond a dictionary definition. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. This article also describes etymology of the word (I never knew it before). To be logical, if we keep Khokhol, we should also keep "Katsap" and Pindos (another article currently in AfD). Biophys (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:DICTIONARY. Discussion of etymology is primarily the task of a dictionary, not an encyclopaedia. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not hold strong opinion about this. Being ethnic Russian myself, I certainly do not mind removing ethic slur about Russians that is centuries old. Biophys (talk) 06:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete and transwiki what's salvageable to Wiktionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so dictionary definitions (of which etymology is a part) do not belong. Khokhol is different in this regard as the article deals mainly with the haircut style.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 11, 2011; 21:40 (UTC)


 * Delete delete per WP:NOTDIC and transwiki wo wiktionary Neptune 123 (talk) 05:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.