Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kausfiles

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP. dbenbenn | talk 08:25, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The votes were 2 delete, 6 keep.

Kausfiles
&lt;boilerplate&gt; Wikipedia is not a way for web-loggers to advertise their curricula vitae to potential employers and their web-logs to potential readers. Nor is it a means for circumventing the fact that Google charges a fee for advertisements. &lt;/boilerplate&gt; Uncle G 23:05, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC) This reflects the importance of this site both amongst bloggers and the wider community. Capitalistroadster 08:53, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment No vote yet, but Mickey Kaus is fairly notable. Kausfiles is on Slate.com, if I remember correctly, whixh is certainly notable. Khanartist  23:28, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)
 * Comment Google claims 240,000 results? This would seem to indicate notability, unless Kausfiles has another meaning. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  23:56, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * How many results does Google Groups give? &lt;boilerplate&gt; The practice of web-logging is well-known to distort Google Web search results. Treat the Google Web Test as unreliable when it comes to web-logging.  The Google Groups Test cuts through the web-logger-induced fog somewhat, though. &lt;/boilerplate&gt; Uncle G 00:44, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)
 * Good point. Groups shows just under 300 results, but those DO go all the way back to 1999.  But while we're looking at Google tabs, over on the News tab, it seems Klausfiles has been mentioned on NPR, The Washington Post, and American Politics Journal, among others... and that's just within the last couple weeks.  I completely understand what you mean by Googlebombing but this just doesn't seem non-notable to me, at least not in the way that term is usually used around here.  Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  01:13, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a very prominent blog on slate.com.  It is is frequently mentioned as one of the first political blogs. --BM 00:18, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * If you know something that is notable about it, put it in the article. As always, I'm happy to be convinced of the subject's notability if that can be demonstrated.  The article currently states no more than that it's a web-log on a web site that has web-logs. Uncle G 00:44, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)
 * It's a marquee feature of slate.com, and arguably the only major part of Slate.com branded and commonly understood as a blog (as opposed to column or department). (Don't confuse Slate with Salon.com, which does provide user-made blogs.) Samaritan 06:27, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, I'm in agreement with Uncle G's comments. It will also set a bad precedent for future articles. Megan1967 00:56, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * What is the bad precedent?  That there should be articles on blogs?  The only way an article on this shouldn't be in Wikipedia is if we are going to have zero articles on blogs.   I would put this in the top 10, say, most significant blogs.   In VfD, we are voting on whether the topic merits an article, not on whether the article currently does justice to the topic.  If the subject merits an article and the article is poor, it should be retained and marked for cleanup, or attention.     --BM 01:05, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Famous, leading mainstream U.S. political blog, easily in the rarified league of Instapundit, Atrios, or Wonkette. I just did a quick wikify/stub/Category:Weblogs. Samaritan 06:27, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Kausfiles is clearly notable being one of the first political weblogs by a notable journalist with a significant readership. During the 2003 recall, Kausfiles made a post breaking the story of Arnold Schwarzegger's interview with Oui magazine talking of participating in group sex which led to other allegations of sexual misconduct by the candidate. Mickey Kaus should also have an article as he is notable for his 1992 book The End of Equality which was significant in the move towards welfare reform and his earlier journalism career. I have added to the Kausfiles article. A Google search http://www.google.com.au/search?q=kausfiles&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official/ 1] shows approximately 240,000 articles while there are 25 articles in Google News for Mickey Kaus indicating that he has a good profile.
 * Keep. This is actually a notable and well-known blog with a fairly high readership. -- Curps 17:56, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Definitely notable - even I know that one, and I'm neither a blog aficionado nor an US citizen. And which political blog can claim to have had that kind of impact on the California recall? regards, High on a tree 03:44, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Very well-known blog. --Stevietheman 18:10, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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