Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kawasaki ZX-6R and 6RR

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP. Golbez 00:45, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Kawasaki ZX-6R and 6RR PAGE MOVED TO Kawasaki ZX-6R
Un focused 20:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) This is unecessary, short, not of interest or noteworthy .WAvegetarian 00:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete almost a speedy candidate with so little content. JamesBurns 06:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep (expanded slightly), notable bikes. Kappa 07:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but in need of expansion/clean-up. Also, if they are different but related bikes then perhaps the article should just be named after one then redirect the other title to it? -- Lochaber 09:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * merge to Kawasaki bikes, or if not at least rename to Kawasaki ZX-6R and have the 6RR redirect there. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 12:22, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge or rename, as per Radiant!, except the target is Kawasaki motorcycles.--Nabla 15:10, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)
 * Comment, somehow a previous comment by WAvegetarian disappeared, even from the page's history! As far as I remember it included an opinion that Kawasaki isn't a major manufacturer, but correct me if I'm mistaken.--Nabla 15:16, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)
 * Comment, That was in an article about a car, not this article. I agree that Kawasaki is a major manufacturer of bikes, I just didn't think that a single model deserved a page. There was so little content that I found it unecessary to merge. If someone wants to expand it or merge the small amount of info here to Kawasaki motorcycles, that's fine with me.WAvegetarian 00:24, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Correction taken, thanks. Sorry for misquoting you. And, yes, I agree we have too much catalog-like articles.--Nabla 13:40, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
 * What is the drawback of having many catalog-like articles? -- Un focused 15:24, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That they tend to be rather short, must all include redundant information about the parent company, and are more easily accessed and compared if put in a list. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 10:17, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * These will develop far more than a simple list. Have a look at Honda Prelude.  Further, each of these motorcycles should (eventually) have a photo, to help with identification.  Significant products require both a list, and a separate article for each, ideally.  -- Un focused 14:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The drawback is that, in my opinion, Wikipedia is not a catalogue. But do not think that I'm for deleting them (I voted to keep this one). Quite the opposite, i think it is unfortunate that some articles don't say anything about the product importance: which novelties does it include? (Even if simply a minor detail or a new combination of features); did it have any cultural impact?; was it a major selling product? Or a flop? Why?; etc.. On the other hand if nothing of relevance can be said about it... what's the article for? It should probably be in a list, which would give a better perspective to a then relevant set of products.--Nabla 02:55, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
 * Keep, but Merge as per Radiant. Even if it's just a stub, this could very well be expanded into something quite informative. Jasonglchu 15:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to Kawasaki motorcycles, no redirect. Kawasaki is a "major manufacturer" of motorcycles, unless you're intentionally redefining "major" the way Anheuser-Busch did for its current ads calling itself "the only American-owned major brewer."  Most people wouldn't call Yuengling and Anchor, for example, "minor".  Barno 17:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I moved the page as shown above. I created a redirect for "Kawasaki 6RR" pointing at the "Kawasaki ZX-6R" page.  -- Un focused 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I would welcome an NPOV article for most manufactured products.   Un focused 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - notable product from a major worldwide manufacturer of motorcycles. --FCYTravis 22:51, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .