Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kay Kristin Boutilier


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. As the nom says, may well be notable one day; just not yet. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Kay Kristin Boutilier

 * – ( View AfD View log )

I declined the speedy on this one but there's nothing in gnews. She's probably not notable yet but may be someday. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest a review of the talk page on this matter as it gives what I consider a fairly good discussion on the merits of the article. I'd like to add that while I agree there is nothing in google news at the moment, had I written this article about a month ago, there would have been a number of hits. She IS relatively new to the scene and I suppose hasn't yet figured out how to Kardashian the news stream yet.. Wiki86420 (talk) 02:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep You state that it meets WP:MUSICBIO for criteria 1 and 11. Can you provide some specific links for either criteria?  I did find this which also states that she will be opening for Kesha.  That same article was mirrored by many different news agencies such as Forbes. Ryan Vesey (talk) 03:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * the following is a link to much music which is a major music video station in canada .. other links include the newspaper article http://www.capebretonpost.com/Arts/Entertainment/2011-05-12/article-2502302/Doing-A-O-Kay/1 as well as being featured on New York Post as someone you "must know" http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/you_must_know_kay_lxZiqLPSVxkt6Swm7SYNDK. Wiki86420 (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It must be said that the blog on the NYPost site is not "the New York Post" itself. Blogs are opinion, not fact. It's too soon for a page, more independent assertions of fame are needed in my opinion.  fr33k man   02:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC) So, delete  fr33k  man   20:27, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - A singer that is on You Tube and was mentioned in two blogs (New York Post Blog and Perezhilton.com, self described as gossip columnist). She has sources from her local newspaper and local TV Station, too. Cit.: Recently signed to Universal/Interscope Records... and Her debut album is scheduled to be released this summer. WP:TOOSOON. I want her on wikipedia after she got notable, the author of this article - an experienced writer - wants her on wikipedia to get her notable. WP:RS, WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:NOTPROMOTION. --Ben Ben (talk) 10:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete I would like to mention that while perezhilton is a blogger, he also has a significant position on the music industry, perhaps more significant that some very well known magazines like Rolling Stone. His influence is well documented- EVEN on wikipedia itself. If I may quote the perez hilton wiki page "Hilton often promotes his favorite up-and-coming musicians by posting streams of their songs under the "Listen To This" category of his blog.[14] London-based singer Mika's 2007 rise to popular success in North America has been partially attributed to Hilton's frequent support.". Additionally, I noticed that perezhiltons page has a whole section dedicated to his own discography as he had released some single about gonorrhea. I don't understand how this could be included in his page as being an important enough contribution but an actual singer with released singles would be considered "too soon". I do take offense in your casting me as biased (that I want her on Wikipedia to get her notable), nor do I understand your mentioning that I am an experienced writer. I am an experienced writer because I write research papers for a living-- therefore I know how to cite articles. I would like to reiterate that my purpose for writing this article was that I had read something about the artist and decided to wiki her as the article was sparse on details and I noticed there was no wiki on her at all. I decided to take the initiative. I am fighting for it to remain as it took me some time to compose the article. Wiki86420 (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * update just named the "next pop goddess" by Fenuxe magazine based out of Atlanta. Wiki86420 (talk) 21:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Could you cite the sentence with "next pop goddess"? Can't find it on fenux.com. BTW Fenuxe Magazine has an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Ben  (talk • contribs)   22:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.fenuxe.com/2011/06/16/interview-kay-major/ It isn't in a sentence rather it is the tagline to the article Wiki86420 (talk) 23:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Aehm, I never casted you as un-biased. Freudian slip?--Ben Ben (talk) 05:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Clearly I meant biased. Wiki86420 (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I know. But for new readers this would read strange. Could you correct it in your vote? We should present an easy to go in discussion for new participants.--Ben Ben (talk) 16:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:MUSICBIO along with all other subject specific guidelines are only a presumptive guide that the topic meets WP:GNG and in this case I don't see that she has. The mentions listed and the article have the feel of someone trying to get noticed and not of someone who has been noticed. Wait till she has some actual success. Mtking (talk) 02:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * final note As the author of this entry, I feel I have provided sufficient evidence to the merits of the content as well as evidence that wikipedia has included content with less merits (vide supra). (Consistency is key!!) If this entry fails, I will probably just rewrite it every month until y'all think it is "time". Thanks for the comments Wiki86420 (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.