Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaya (Canadian singer) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Lourdes  03:24, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Kaya (Canadian singer)
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to Wikipedia team, I am the subject of the page and I request to delete it because I regard myself as a non-notable, a private person, not notable enough to be on Wikipedia. Also, articles and links are poorly sourced and most of the links do not work and exist anymore and are only from small regional French papers and talk about things that I have done when I was 7 to 24 years old (I am almost 50 now). My life is totally different than what is mentioned and many facts and years that are mentioned are not right, not accurate. I do not feel it is worth for me or Wikipedia to rewrite or correct it. Also, links and sources are from small regional papers and all articles are in French and people who speak English do not understand them. Thank you for having the kindness to delete this page. I truly believe it is not notable enough for Wikipedia. FLK 72 (talk) 01:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment. For diff of where FLK 72 made this nomination on the article, see here. —C.Fred (talk) 01:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Firstly, Wikipedia does not have any rule that our sources need to be in English — as long as our article is in English, the sources can be in any language. And we also don't have any requirement that the sources be web-accesible, either — as long as complete citation details (title of the source, name of the publication and date) were provided, if the weblink dies we still have a wholly valid reference, because all we have to do is strip the URL and turn it into a citation to the print version of the reference instead of the web version. And secondly, while we can certainly limit our coverage of your current life as it stands today, you have Juno Award and Prix Félix nominations in your past when you were making mainstream pop and rock music — which means that we have to be able to have some form of an article about you, because that's a straight WP:NMUSIC pass for which an article must be allowed to exist. While I'll admit that it does contain two artists who don't actually have articles yet, we simply can't deem a shortlisted Juno Award for Artist of the Year nominee — which you are — to be off limits as an article topic: every person listed there must be either an article or a potential future article, with no exceptions for any reason. Same for Juno Award for Francophone Album of the Year, where you also have a nomination under your belt. We can certainly make some edits to the article to balance your prominence in the 1990s against your personal privacy rights as a lower-profile private citizen in the 2010s — but the article is based on reliable sources, which means that if anything in it is wrong that's the sources' fault and not ours, and articles must be allowed to exist on Wikipedia about past Juno nominees. There can simply never be an exception to that: the Juno nominations mean we have to maintain an article about at least that part of your life, and the only room for debate is how much the article does or doesn't need to say about what you're doing now. Bearcat (talk) 17:41, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: no policy-based rationale for deletion. You pass musical artist notability and as  says, that means you are notable.    Dr Strauss   talk   22:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Maybe WP should have a policy if somebody wants to remove himself definitely with all the privacy related matters these days. Despite that fact the subject is passing musical artist notability . --ClrView (talk) 09:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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