Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keas Bees


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete; salt Earth: unverified garbage. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 10:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Keas Bees

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Fails, WP:V, looks like some kind of satire by an editor who thinks Streetlight Manifesto and Third wave ska is mumbo-jumbo, also see article's talk page. I don't care one way or another about ska, but I don't like hoax articles. Admin declined speedy, anon IP removed prod. Tubezone 19:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: The article has been moved to Streetlight Manifesto Untitled Album, but it is still the same article with a new title --FiveIron 07:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC) The article has been moved back to the original page, but both articles still exist --FiveIron 02:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, the article is completely fake, the creator doesn't even have any information to back it up and if you search 'Keas Bees' on Victory Record's site, The RISC Group's site, Streetlight Manifesto's site, Google, Yahoo or Dogpile, you get nothing. GhostBoy66 00:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions.   -- Tubezone 23:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Hoax, I would bet something made up in school one day--FiveIron 05:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: I suspect the majority of the keep votes are a single person using a proxy since they are all unsigned and from unregistered users. Yes there is a new album in the works, but the name and the article are completely fake.--FiveIron 19:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Obviously a hoax. Release date for next album is 20010, the Genre is stupid + insulting and the track titles, although it is well known that Streetlight Manifesto often create satirical names (see their tour names for proof), are completely ridiculous. I agree with FiveIron, someone just thought they were funny and thought they would add it.- Nic the Man 08:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep -- OK I just changed my mind completely. Now that it's been edited and references, this article should be kept as it is legitimate, just completely reworked. I will put a current event tag up. Nic the Man 11:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Hoax article. Messwemade 21:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Most of this is obviously a joke, but I did read an interview with tomas about a new album where he mentioned a few of the things in this article, but it will clearly have to be heavily edited —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.126.156.248 (talk • contribs). — 130.126.156.248 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. While some of this article might be a bit of a jib, this album is coming out.  I'm close friends with Tomas and Sergio and the both told me.  Obvioulsy Kearby mid-to-late afternoons isn't coming out in 20010.  Tomas said around 2010.  So I'd guess 2030 roughly.  Everything else is pretty damn true.  That dog in the bee costume has a real future.  Sexy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.141.21.65 (talk • contribs).  — 140.141.21.65 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep -- I agree with the above poster, although some details are obviously fake (the cover is, of course, not actually modelled by a dog in a bee costume), Keas Bees is a legitimate album and shouldn't be deleted simply because the editors think it's too bizzare to be true. Streetlight Manifesto has always been a unique band, and a concept album about the lives of bee breeders and treadmill salesmen should come as no surprise to their fans. They also have a history of not announcing their releases except through fan buzz (KNAPBSM, for example), which would be why information on the internet as of yet. However there was quite a buzz at their shows, everyone was really pumped when Tomas announced it here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IAMED 2 (talk • contribs). — IAMED 2 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. At a recent BOTAR show Tomas did tell the crowd his grandpa once told him that his last wish was for Tomas to make an album about bee sellers, because he was a bee worker himself, and Tomas agreed. Also Kristina Berh says this is true.Ghostboy you really are making a fool of yourself by question this obviously true article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.65.86.42 (talk) 23:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Delete. Hoax article as previously stated. Note all of the keep votes so far have been from unsigned IP addresses. --GVOLTT 00:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP We are working on sourcing an interview to verify this information.  I'm currently trying to find out if a recent interview done by a journalist at the Diamondback newspaper can confirm the info.  So I must vote for keep, even though I know this is breaking info MPerdomo 05:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Tomas told me he doesn't jk anyone. This is factual. I have his cell number, he plays shows in my venue. I'll call him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.189.176.47 (talk • contribs). — 67.189.176.47 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep. Thomas hasn't said in an interview that this ISN'T coming out, so I have no choice but to believe it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.110.225.198 (talk • contribs). — 65.110.225.198 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * KEEP i saw the streetlamps and they totally played some of teh songs listed!!1! coincidence?! i think not! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.38.28.25 (talk • contribs). — 68.38.28.25 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep. Also, as an addendum to those below me (I wrote the one directly below this), you folks say there is no verifiability. I see nothing disproving this article, leading me to believe that you cannot verify that it is false. and Streetlight fans genuinely know about the band and follow it- the quality of the Streetlight article itself is proof of this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.236.216.90 (talk • contribs).


 * Keep. Tomas Kalnoky has only recently started to reveal details about the album, that's why references are lacking on the internet. As if any website would be a credible reference. On tours and interviews he has confirmed these things. I know lots of the people who helped write this article and they definitely know more about Streetlight than any of you ... so take our word for it. Plus, it has cover art. It's real.


 * Keep. To be honest,  the argument has several merits.  Tomas has been known to be "eccentric" at times.  He also is known for not publishing any information about his albums till right before their release.  and the tracklist looks convincing based off the songs available on youtube that have been recorded from many streetlight shows.  I have even attended one where i heard them playing "mercy me"  The negatives really only seem to indicate that is is disbelief at the eccentricity of the article, and i don't believe that it should be removed based on that alone.  It will probably need editing (the whole 20010 peice is obviously a 2010 typo) but perhaps we can leave it with the statement that the validity has been questioned and actually do some investigation instead of just saying how unlikely it is.12.226.120.192 00:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC) — 12.226.120.192 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete and ban the sockpuppets. No sources to suggest that's the name of the album, let alone that track listing. The sources are awful and they don't explain anything.++ aviper2k7 ++ 03:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, I put this up and forgot to vote.... Delete, still misses verifiability by a long shot. The only references that would even remotely pass WP:RS, don't really say much other than vague statements that, well, at some point they'll put out an album, which could be said about a lot of bands. Not enough to do anything but speculate, even the keep vote above says He also is known for not publishing any information about his albums till right before their release, which is patent admission that not enough info is likely to be available for an article. If and when there's something to verify, and new article can be put up under the verifiable name of the album. Tubezone 04:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect because Tomas told me to There are no reliable sources, but it would be reasonable for someone to do a search for the album title, so redirect to Streetlight Manifesto. And because I have Tomas's cellphone number and he said we should definitely redirect.  ShadowHalo 10:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. It is referenced. Also, I have a feeling that Tomas Kalnoky, being his usual self, is trying to keep us second guessing and has probably posted this information on the internet somewhere. Then again I could be completely wrong. — Daniel Kalnoky (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Redirect to Streetlight Manifesto. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and this album has not been officially announced, at least, from the information I gather. I do support the attempt to bold redirect, but it appears that the consensus is against that atm. --Afluent Rider 10:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


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