Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keep It Trill


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I'm not impressed by the canvassing that seems to have occurred, nor am I impressed by the arguments of the many anonymous keep !votes. The bottom line is that significant reliable secondary coverage is absent, and that means Wikipedia does not consider it notable. Okiefromokla questions? 01:39, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Keep It Trill
This website does not meet WP:WEB and lacks non-trivial coverage by reliable third party publications. While there is a list of "references", do not be deceived as none of them are actually about the website at all, and instead focus on a news story about rapper Rick Ross and his previous two year stint as a corrections officer. JBsupreme (talk) 01:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete: It is only notable for the Rick Ross event, if that. Craig Montgomery (talk) 02:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The references are for an event only marginally related to the site, and I'm finding nothing else that asserts notability. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 03:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing on google or google news suggests that this website has any notability. Because of this, I think it fails website notability criteria. —Atyndall &#91;citation needed&#93; 08:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * '''Keep!!!! Keep it trill is for the trill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.10.165.231 (talk) 03:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep:Don't delete! I also visit the trill website regularly for news etc. Keep It Trill is one of the fastest growing sites... and you want to delete a reference to it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.2.105 (talk) 03:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Do not delete! The reasons you all have given for deletion is absurd! What gives you the right to say whether the website has notability? Did you even see the website? I visit this site daily for news and they have all of my support. They report everything fairly and even with the Rick Ross story, NOTHING was biased. They did not form their own opinion, they just gave the facts and let the people reading form an opinion for themselves. Just check the comments on the articles.
 * Keep: All websites start somewhere. Just because it lacks a history, means nothing. It obviously reports news just as many other websites and if you check the Alexa Website rankings, its ranked in the top 100k websites for more than a week now. To be this succesful, they must be doing something right. Especially considering they haven't been around for more than a few months (this means they must have some type of following!). Give them a chance. As far as the person who made a comment about google notability, what does that mean? If you search keep it trill, it is the first result. If you search the word "Trill", it is on page 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.164.51 (talk) 02:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete -- While Googling brings up numerous references to "Keep It Trill", none of them are for the website. And, for the mystery person who wanted to "don't delete" the article ("keep" is the proper word here), your reasons for keeping the article is not valid enough. -- azumanga (talk) 06:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep it, son. Why does it need to show up on Google for it to be a real website? Besides, they just don't give news, they also help underground artists with websites and MySpace pages, so maybe you idiots should revise the wikipedia page. And I laugh at those who say it doesn't have notability. Yeah, They haven't been sued EVER for slander, but the website lacks notability. Get ya facts straight before you decide to be morons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.148.161 (talk) 12:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Azumanga, you may want to try googling again. It is the 2nd choice that pops up. KeepItTrill.com . You may also want to go to alexa.com to check its traffic rankings. It is becoming a major website and has a large presence on the web, in its short existence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.164.51 (talk) 07:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - KeepItTrill.com breaks the latest in hip-hop regarding news, new releases, rumors, etc., and to delete it from a site that permits just about anyone to change entries, many times based on inacurate info, is absurd. The website is good for hip-hop but not good for haters who want to question the validity of it's existance. Wouldn't it be better to give the website a chance to catch up with your terms & policies before dismissing it? I think so..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by J2k813 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)  — J2k813 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment: "Keep It Trill", the website, only has one entry on Google. There are many other references to this phrase, but none refer to this site. Hence, I'm sticking to my guns for a "delete" nomination. By the way -- sign all your comments with four tildes. Also, if all these unsigned comments come from one person, keep in mind that such is frowned upon here at Wikipedia. -- azumanga (talk) 21:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

-MAYBE, if this has to be deleted.. instead have keepitTrill, just as allhiphop has theirs. ~Thanks for readin...70.118.127.3 (talk) 04:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.118.127.3 (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Are yall serious?? Go to google right now and type Keep it trill, the third entry is the website. Try Trill Hip Hop News, it's the 5th entry.. This site reports daily news on a daily basis and supports underground and upcoming artists as well as known artists. They do interviews, reviews and reports on albums, Hip Hop events including Bun B, Ozone Awards this year, Texas Music Summit, artists, and writes their own hip hop news articles as they can. It also gives less fortunate underground artists opportunity to publish their music to the public either free or at a low cost. It offers services that include everything from design to cd replication at lower costs than anybody else is willing to do in the industry. Hip Hop is a way of life for many, Keep It Trill tries to keep it alive for the less fortunate artists who are trying to get some exposure.
 * Keep All of these comments are i.p logged, so you can rest assured that they are individual responses. I will have to suggest that you brush up on your google skills. I am not sure how you can not see keep it trill listed as the 2nd entry in google. KeepItTrill.com - "The Trillest Hip-hop Website On The Internet" is what comes up. Not to mention it is the same for yahoo and many other search engines. Keep It Trill uses SEO for their news blogs and articles pull up for their website when searching for various topics related to hip-hop. As a close friend to the owners of Keep It Trill, you would be making a big mistake by trying to discredit them, as they are hard working and very legit people. 98.196.141.233 (talk) 01:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment -- First of all, I suggest brushing up on WP:COI; Conflict of Interest is also frowned upon at Wikipedia. Second, all but one IPs here come from Comcast, which suggests that something is not right. -- azumanga (talk) 02:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment So you have a problem that a majority of the users use comcast? May I ask where you live? Comcast is the dominant service provided in Houston, Dallas and Atlanta. I know this first hand as I have lived in each of these places and visit them often. These cities happen to be target markets for Keep It Trill (seeing how it is a southern based website - and the owner is from Texas). I'm not an expert at I.P logging (or whatever its called), but isn't there a different I.P address for each computer? And can't you even narrow each i.p by city? or by region at the very least? As for conflict of interest, I do not see how that could apply for this rule, seeing as how I did not create the article, nor the owners of the site (not to my knowledge anyway). I am simply here defending the entry in their honor. If anything, it seems you are set on discrediting the website, due to your inability to search google accurately? That is just my assumption, but I can send you several screen shots showing keepittrill.com in google, yahoo, ask, etc. Do you have something against hip-hop websites, or do you just not like Keep It Trill for some reason? The stats are undeniable, so you can't say the site isn't relevant. 98.196.141.233 (talk) 03:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete "keepittrill" ends up with only 189 unique G-hits, while the the words broken apart net 363 uniques (about as accurate as you're going to get, as it only considers that one phrase in the search). Not really all that notable. The site's big notability is that they found a picture of a rapper as a prison guard when said rapper has vehemently denied it and says that it's not him. We don't help spread rumors. And yes, we can track IP's down to a city. Also, there is no bias against hip-hop here, it's just that the site isn't well known enough to be notable, that's all. As for Alexa results, this graph says it all. It's only gone up to the claimed number because of the picture, and after it all dies down it's going to plunge back to the pre picture levels. I can say that one site that I visit daily is in the top 75k, but we don't have an article on that, so we can't base the decision on Alexa results alone.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-notable site. Plus the page stinks of weasel words.  Reads to me like an advertisement and a desperate plea to "show" notability with the Rick Ross incident.   P G  Pirate  17:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * keep - Good site. I visited this site and it seems to be on point with many other hip-hop websites that I have visited. I researched these Alexa rankings you guys keep talking about and it indeed does confirm the results. The previous poster is right about the spike starting when the Rick Ross photo broke. The site seems to have had a drop off in traffic since, but it seems like it is remaining steady in the 60k ranking range for about a full week now. That story could have given the site enough exposure to bring in a whole new audience and they may return on a daily basis since they now are aware of the sites existence. If anything, I think we should all see how the next couple weeks play out for the site to see where they rank then. At that point, we will see if it really has notability, or if they just caught a lucky break with the Ross photo 74.244.90.209 (talk) 19:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


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