Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith Rosenkranz (2nd nomination)


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The result was   no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 06:19, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Keith Rosenkranz
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He fails WP:SOLDIER and I don't believe he passes WP:AUTHOR with just one book. The sources in this article are not reliable - even the NYT article gives his personal story, as do the interviews. There is some news coverage around the release of his book but I don't believe his notable Gbawden (talk) 11:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Fails WP:SOLDIER - The carreer as a soldier is not notable in itselve. The 3 interviews are not sufficient to state that subject is recognized by his peers as an authoritative source on military matters/writing. -- Taketa (talk) 20:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Changing my vote to keep. Clarityfiend provides sufficient sources, combined with sources provided on the first nomination, to fulfil general notabilitu criteria. -- Taketa (talk) 05:19, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Undecided. He fails SOLDIER, but his book's gotten some favorable reviews, he gets a few paragraphs about his post-military career in the Washington Post and USA Today, and there's an NPR interview.. There's also this long article, the first half about him, by the Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service, (HighBeam sub. probably needed) and he seems to be considered some sort of aviation expert in several accidents just because he's a veteran Delta Airlines pilot. Definite delete for his wingman "Gonzo" Guildenstern, however. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:32, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 00:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Weak Keep, although the subject themselves does not appear to have met WP:GNG, he does fall under notable per WP:AUTHOR, as shown by the sources provided by • Gene93k.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment' I'm not seeing significant coverage in the articles I can see readily, the Washington Post, and USA Today articles aren't really about Rosenkrantz, and other voices are heard. The New York Times piece is by Rosenkrantz - though it's more about his experience of taking amphetamine on missions than an analysis of Tarnak Farm, if the article stays that could do with re-phrasing - but is that RS? It's not a third party account. The CNN interviews aren't extensive - his opinions are being sought but not in depth. Also telling for me is that since 2007, all we have in the article on this person is - he flew for the air force, he wrote a book, he flew for Delta. Are we looking at a permanent stub? GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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