Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keizaburō Saeki


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Keizaburō Saeki

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Rationale borrowed from  (courtesy ping) at Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai, which was an identical bot-created article:

"This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."

In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name, and of the Japanese name. The results for the English names were pitiful, and the results for the Japanese were hardly better: trivial mentions in credit sections of books, or lists of copyright holders of things. Japanese Wikipedia has no article about this person, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it.

In the absence of reliable source, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article should be deleted. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 19:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:37, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that the current cite alone is insufficient, but I also remember having saved one of these in the past. It looks like there's quite a bit of coverage of the 1958 documentary アンデスを越えて–南米の日本人たち (=approx. Over the Andes: The Japanese of South America), which is listed as a Paramount Pictures/Mainichi Pictures release. There is another film released by Shōei from the same year. It's not clear to me at a glance whether this is the same Saeki, but see e.g. this. Dekimasu よ! 00:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In addition, note that the previous nomination referred to here was actually by User:Cckerberos, who hasn't edited since December. Dekimasu よ! 00:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * My mistake, I've amended. Thanks for spotting that. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete In the absence of reliable sources, there really isn't any way this passes WP:ANYBIO. PohranicniStraze (talk) 06:38, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find anything other than the 328 photographers list that conveys notability. Without evidence of being renowned, all the article says is that the subject is a photographer, which isn't enough to pass WP:CREATIVE.  StraussInTheHouse (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2018 (UTC)


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