Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelan Luker


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The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 02:25, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Kelan Luker

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This guy was a high school and college football player and a bass player in a band that is not notable. The one source we have is a local news story. Nothing to indicate this passes above local notice, let alone anything with permanent encyclopedic value. John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Tagged notability for eight years and nothing has been improved.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 01:08, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment re available sources. I haven't time to assess just yet, but a quick google search does reveal (1) this article from the Abilene Reporter-News, (2) this and (3) this from the Dallas Observer, (4) this from the Stephenville Empire-Tribune. These and any other feature stories about Luker should be assessed before determining whether or not he passes WP:GNG.  Cbl62 (talk) 04:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment While the depth of coverage is enough, the sources are too local. Not sure if the subject passes WP:SPORTCRIT.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 08:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably so with respect to the Stephensville paper. Not so sure about the publications from Abilene and Dallas. There is also (5) this from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and (6) this from the Arkansas Times.  Maybe a lot more behind pay walls.  Will try to review more carefully later. Cbl62 (talk) 14:02, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * @ 180.172: The portion of WP:SPORTCRIT you referenced is meant to ensure we use caution in assessing coverage in non-independent, local sources such as school newspapers and small, hometown newspapers. Here, we have widespread and in-depth coverage in multiple feature stories from across Texas and even Arkansas, including the state's major daily newspapers.  This is far beyond "routine" coverage. Cbl62 (talk) 15:14, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. I've now seen enough (20 feature stories about Luker in reputable media sources) to persuade me this guy satisfies WP:GNG.  The article definitely needs improving, but there's extensive, in-depth coverage in multiple media sources, including some of the largest daily newspapers in the country.  A search of the NewsLibrary database turned up 547 articles referencing Luker.  I haven't reviewed them all, but these ones, in addition to the ones referenced as (1) to (6) above, are all feature stories about Luker: (7) Rock on! Luker, SMU part; Former starting QB quits team to record, play with his band, The Dallas Morning News - July 24, 2002; (8) Stephenville QB takes aim at records, Fort Worth Star-Telegram - December 17, 1998, (9) Submersed Pony KELAN LUKER: SMU QUARTERBACK Former quarterback's career pick sounds better 'In Due Time', Dallas Morning News, The (TX) - April 25, 2005, (10) Full circle Six years after leaving football for music, Stephenville's Kelan Luker has left music for football, Abilene Reporter-News (TX) - August 24, 2008, (11) QB position is put back on his playlist, Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TX) - May 7, 2008, (12) Luker drops back, finds success at QB Stephenville passes on tradition, Fort Worth Star-Telegram - October 7, 1997, (13) Luker hopes to win QB job at SMU, Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TX) - August 10, 2001, (14) SMU passer sharp where it counts, The Dallas Morning News - April 8, 2001, (15) HEAVYWEIGHT SHOWDOWN QB Luker destroys defenses, Fort Worth Star-Telegram - October 9, 1998, (16) QB not tuning up for SMU Junior considering being bass player in rock band over football, The Dallas Morning News - June 26, 2002, (17) Pressure cooker Stephenville ex named SMU's starting QB, at least for now, The Dallas Morning News - August 23, 2001, (18) Luker: It's been long enough, Stephenville Empire-Tribune (TX) - December 6, 2012; (19) BURNING DESIRE Kelan Luker steps into the fire at quarterback with hopes of reviving SMU, The Dallas Morning News - August 23, 2001.  Cbl62 (talk) 14:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as a WP:GNG pass per excellent research by Cbl62. Ejgreen77 (talk) 16:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as subject easily crosses the verifiability and notability thresholds. - Dravecky (talk) 06:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Neutral Strike my original !vote.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 01:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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