Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelemvor Lyonsbane


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. Spartaz Humbug! 06:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Kelemvor Lyonsbane

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Fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines for fictional characters. Neelix (talk) 09:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - main character in the first three novels of the Avatar Series, and had an important role in the followup novels; went on to become a fixture in the Forgotten Realms RPG setting as a deity since then, so fairly notable in the Forgotten Realms overall. I think this one can stand on its own.  I wonder why a merge wasn't considered before this one went to AFD? BOZ (talk) 02:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator - To be notable in Forgotten Realms is not to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The general notability guideline requires that a subject receive "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," but this character has received no such coverage. Neelix (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And merge was not an option? It looks like you have already merged a number of other characters in the series into a list, so what is different about this one that it should be deleted instead? BOZ (talk) 15:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of Dungeons & Dragons deities, as it fails WP:GNG, per WP:BDK. Claritas § 15:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. Then we can merge at our leisure. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 13:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge and redirect: looks like there is a consensus for a merge between these !votes. Editors can work out how to summarize and merge. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Let us not pretend we have any agreed guidelines for fictional characters; a reasonable alternative standard is that major characters in major fiction get articles.   The WP:N guidelines   provide liberally for exceptions to the GNG, which is merely a default optional standard. Unmerge the others that are principal characters while we are at it, since merges can be considered here if they are contested.    DGG ( talk ) 03:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge into List of Dungeons & Dragons deities- and this does not mean "Lazy copy & paste dump". Very little in this article is sourced to anything, nothing is sourced to the independent sources which are required by policy in order for a stand-alone article to exist, and almost all of it is horrible in-universe cruft. This article needs to be aggressively attacked with a big cruft-scraping tool of some kind. The little relevant, useful content is appropriate in List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. Reyk  YO!  03:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.