Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly (Barbie)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to List of Barbie's friends and family. (non-admin closure) KTC (talk) 01:40, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Kelly (Barbie)

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Do we really need an article for every Barbie doll? I think not. Cyan  Gardevoir  (used EDIT!) 01:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep No adequate reason to delete has been provided. Note that Barbie dolls are documented in sources such as Warman's Barbie Doll Field Guide and Collector's Encyclopedia of Barbie Doll Exclusives. Warden (talk) 06:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of Barbie's friends and family which contains most of the same information. It would perhaps make sense to turn the latter into more of a table format. Mangoe (talk) 12:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 16:35, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of Barbie's friends and family per Mangoe --Artene50 (talk) 00:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge - come to think of it, merging is a way better idea now. Maybe I should've just WP:BEBOLD and merged it instead of RfA'ing this here... Cyan  Gardevoir  (used EDIT!) 07:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge All Blah(Barbie) articles into one "Barbie dolls" article. It's going to be more mangeable, progress from one (Barbie) will be more likely to carry over to the other dolls, and the info will be more structured and - last but not least - presented in a more encyclopedic way then. Clearly, only "Barbie" looks notable enough to have an article of its own; the others are hardly individually notable. 217.251.156.68 (talk) 15:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd even think that these AfD items should be merged into one great discussion - or maybe close the individual ones in favor of the new one. Admins? 217.251.156.68 (talk) 15:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge or Delete - This character appears to be discontinued and/or replaced by yet another little sister with a different name and doesn't seem to have had much of an identity/storyline beyond just being a "toddler" for the older girls to care for. As those familiar with the Barbie "universe" may already understand, Barbie's friends/family are constantly changing (a new character is often introduced, and within a few years they're gone, never to be seen/heard from again).  Certain characters such as Ken and Skipper have been around for almost 50 years and really do merit their own articles, but I honestly don't see the need to begin adding a separate "stub" for every single character that has been added to the line over the years.  If she were to reappear in the future, developed some "staying power" and an identity beyond that of a mere "accessory" for Barbie to "babysit", then the argument could be made than she possibly merits her own page, but that doesn't appear to be the case as of now. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 04:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Tutti and Todd (Barbie) Weak keep /Comment While I agree with Crakkerjakk's arguments on these AFDs, it strikes me that Kelly(Shelly in Europe) has been around since 1995 so if she's still being manufactured, she's been over 15 years in production. I don't know when they discontinued her, or even if she has been discontinued, but I do see a number of fan groups (Friends of Kelly, Kelly's Corner, etc...) on a Google search. Am not a Barbie person at all, but I know quite a few Barbie collectors, so I've heard quite a bit about the different dolls/have some peripheral awareness and do remember seeing Kelly dolls in shops over quite a significant time period. Mabalu (talk) 10:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No, hold the horses - if Stacie/Kelly are the same doll as they seem to be according to the Friends and Family page, and Crakkerjakk has argued compellingly for merging Stacie to Tutti and Todd (Barbie), then merge Kelly to that article too - especially if Kelly/Stacie are the same renamed doll. Mabalu (talk) 10:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a "Kelly" doll introduced in one gift set back in 1991 which was believed to fill the "Tutti" role, but the doll was re-named Stacie almost immediately and the "Kelly" name was instead used for a younger toddler-aged little sister of Barbie. Beginning in 2010, the name of this toddler-aged sister was changed to "Chelsea".  I know it's confusing, but essentially (with the exception of one gift set in the early 1990s), Kelly was a different, younger sister than Stacie and, as of now, is no longer part of the Barbie family.  Rationale for this confusing web of family friends among collectors appears to be the fact that Mattel has trademarked all of these various names, and simply recycles/reuses them, often for a completely different character, without any attempt to maintain continuity. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.