Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Crull


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The result was keep. per the addition of reliable sources 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Kelly Crull

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Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NJOURNALIST. None of the sources available or on the article are discussion in detail, rather just job announcements, failing WP:SIGCOV. John from Idegon (talk) 19:48, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment I have created a lot of bios, but journalism is outside of my wheelhouse. I was unaware that job announcements do not count as WP:RS. Is there a policy or guideline in this regard.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:ROUTINE is what you seek I think Tony. John from Idegon (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I added more information and several more sources. She is a longtime sports commentator who regularly appears on television for commentary, and has worked for Fox Sports, NBC Sports Chicago and many others. Passes WP:ENTERTAINER for "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" as she has appeared on sports television dozens if not hundreds of times since 2006. Lonehexagon (talk) 22:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Reporters are not entertainers. John from Idegon (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Which guideline says a sports commentator is not an entertainer? According to Wikipedia, entertainers can be "Actors, voice actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and celebrities." I would say she is an opinion maker as she offers commentary. Regardless of how you define her position, I believe the article still passes WP:GNG. Lonehexagon (talk) 01:07, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I am ready and willing to award ten extra points to anyone who can use WP:ACADEMIC or WP:GEOLAND use as a keep rationale for this person, who is clearly WP:JOURNALIST.104.163.158.37 (talk) 05:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as the nom says, the references are largely job announcements. Far too little coverage to establish notability.104.163.158.37 (talk) 05:30, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep after the additions by, I think she passes WP:GNG.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:35, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes GNG with the coverage and sources. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 17:19, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep Meets WP:GNG (barely) with coverage in multiple indy sources. I was swayed by this podcast which I added that was solely about her life and career experiences. Otherwise, was ready to !vote delete as article appeared to be case of Masking the lack of notability, especially after I removed both unrelated and duplicate references. However, there is other significant coverage with "OKC Thunder hires KOCO's Kelly Crull to be sideline reporter". The Oklahoman and "Noblesville's Kelly Crull covers the story of a lifetime in Cubs World Series win" WISH TV. Generally, I'm not in favor of bios that could basically never be more than a list of employers.—Bagumba (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


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