Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Dulfer


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The result was   keep. SarahStierch (talk) 17:21, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Kelly Dulfer

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The article does not contain any content other than references and secondly the article has only one reference. Article does not seem to be notable — Frank Boy  15:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete This article does not show any proof of notability and is a Short unhelpful article.--Jeffrd10 (talk) 16:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - I'm not up on all of Notability (sports) (and it has no specific mention for handball), but does the claim that "She plays ... on the Dutch national team" satisfy notability? Chris857 (talk) 17:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:30, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:30, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - My understanding of WP:NSPORTS is that, in the absence of contrary guidelines, it can be regarded as satisfied if the person concerned has competed in the world championships of an Olympic sport, provided these are regarded by the sport's governing body as equivalent in standard to the sport's Olympic events. On this reckoning, the 2013 World Women's Handball Championship, which is taking place at the moment, certainly seems to qualify, but only if she has not just been part of the team but has actually played. Despite wording that at first glance reads otherwise, the article stops just short of saying she has done so - which it looks as if she may well have done in the few days since the article was created (but I have not been able to properly verify this). But the situation seems to be that if she has played in the current world championship, she satisfies WP:NSPORTS, but if not, none of the previous events she has definitely played in seem to satisfy the criteria. PWilkinson (talk) 00:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Regarding notability, this article was created based on the standards given in Notability (sports), which says, "sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level (such as the Olympics)." In this case, participation in the IHF World Women's Handball Championship, which should be regarded as highest level along with the Olympics. The first sentence in the nomination ("The article does not contain any content other than references") seems to be directly misleading, and was so even for the initial version of the article. I have since expanded the article slightly, in order to: 1) Document more explicitly that she actually played matches in the ongoing 2013 World Women's Handball Championship. 2) Added references from various sources, trying to document satisfaction of the WP:GNG criteria. Oceanh (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Has participated in a major competition, several sources, meets basic notability under WP:SPORTCRIT. - ManicSpider (talk) 16:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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