Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Roman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Kelly Roman

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author is not even on amazon and there is no assertion of notability

The author appears to have published nothing, as this "Graphic Novel" is unpublished Pontificalibus (talk) 07:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - according to the external link the book will not be published till 2010, so fails WP:BK, and no other notability is claimed for the author. JohnCD (talk) 09:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * THE AUTHOR IS NOT ON AMAZON BECAUSE HIS FIRST BOOK WILL ON SALE IN 2010. THE AUTHOR AND THE BOOK ARE NOTABLE BECAUSE OF THE RARITY OF HARPERCOLLINS - ONE OF THE LARGEST MAIN STREAM PUBLISHERS IN THE WORLD - COMMISSIONING A GRAPHIC NOVEL, WITH MAURO DIPRETA AS EDITOR (THE EDITOR OF MARLEY & ME, AN INTERNATIONAL BESTSELLER). THIS IS ADEQUATELY NOTED IN THE PUBLISHER'S LUNCH REFERENCE. ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A NOTABLE AUTHOR AND A NOTABLE BOOK.


 * THERE ARE MANY "UPCOMING" MAJOR WORKS OF ART - MOVIES, BOOKS, ALBUMS - WHICH HAVE ENTRIES IN WIKIPEDIA WITHOUT CHALLENGE, SO TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THIS ONE SEEMS ARBITRARY, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WILL BE ONE OF HARPERCOLLINS' BIGGEST RELEASES IN 2010 - THE FIRST GRAPHIC NOVEL THAT MAURO DIPRETA AND IT BOOKS RELEASES. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjroman (talk • contribs) 14:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  15:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Argh, my eyes! Please don't post in all caps. The article is a clear WP:CRYSTAL violation, and I feel that the accompanying article about the author's unpublished only work should be deleted too. I'm passingly familiar with the graphic novel business, and I disagree fiercely with Kjroman's analysis. I also would point out that there's a likely WP:COI issue, comparing that user's name with the article title; and this also leads me to suspect a hoax. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - there is indeed a COI issue - Kjroman is presumably the subject of the article, and the original article author J Cliche identifies himself on its talk page with "I am an agent of the author and therefore speak for Harper Collins in this regard." The book's article has been dePRODded, so I have taken it to AfD here. JohnCD (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, with no prejudice against the article being re-created when it's actually been published and actually become notable by receiving coverage in independent, third-party reliable sources and/or winning notable awards. I understand the temptation to create a Wikipedia article about the book in order to promote it, but Wikipedia doesn't (and can't) work that way. First the book becomes notable, then it gets a Wikipedia article.  If we allowed it to work the other way round, Wikipedia would be awash with promotional content.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  16:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Obviously fails notability guidelines as the author of zero published works. Edward321 (talk) 04:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.