Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly S. Eustis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Aside from accounts that apparently only exist to !vote in this discussion, a consensus to delete is clear. Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:19, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Kelly S. Eustis

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Non-notable partisan activist whose career seems to consist mostly of coming in last in a small-town election and feuding with a minimally notable talk radio personality. Most references are promotional or are mentions of the subject in passing, often in small-town newspapers. All substantive content appears to come from SPAs, raising the likelihood that socking's been going on. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 03:49, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete Somebody made a real effort, but still fails WP:POLITICIAN. Ray  Talk 02:19, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete Small town newspapers don't count? Such as New York Times and POLITICO? Hmmm... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.10.249 (talk) 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)  — 75.45.10.249 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete per past precedent at WP:OUTCOMES. This is a local activist who made some noise to become a person in the news, but hasn't gotten there yet.  See also Articles for deletion/Eric Ely for a similar Upstater who is not yet ready for notability. Bearian (talk) 00:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Failed small-town political candidate, so fails WP:POLITICIAN. Lots of references are provided but most are trivially local; he gets a few mentions in mainstream articles in Reliable Sources, but the articles are about the organization he was formerly associated with, the "America Deserves Better PAC". There is nothing actually about him, thus fails WP:GNG. The article seems like it exists mainly to promote his consulting firm. --MelanieN (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete He was a young candidate, obviously influential in rising political movement, and will likely move on to better things besides bickering. Don't delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocpoliticalguy — Ocpoliticalguy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Do Not Delete Even though I despise the kid in every way, I wouldn't want my article to be deleted. --MarkWilliamsTP (talk)
 * Delete Looks like this article is another bit of his polemics. No, that's not what Wikipedia is for. Not soapbox, and not for boosting someone's political or business career. Peridon (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete If it's all factual, with press evidence to back up each claim, how does that boost a person's career? There's both good and bad stuff on here. Just don't understand your concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYGOPer (talk • contribs) 23:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)  —  NYGOPer (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The concept is explained here: WP:POLITICIAN and WP:GNG. --MelanieN (talk) 00:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - sources are thin on the ground, mentioning Eustis only in passing or not at all. The votes in support look strongly like recruited proxy votes. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. —Tim Pierce (talk) 17:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete That's ridiculous ("not at all"). Every article on there mentions him or else it wouldn't be there. Eustis is often the primary interviewee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.10.249 (talk) 18:47, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm striking out your "Do not delete" here and below, since you "voted" that way already. You only get one "vote" - although you are welcome to comment as much as you like. --MelanieN (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The following sources do not mention Eustis at all:    . One  generated a "file not found" error. The interviews in which Eustis is the primary focus all seem to come from the Glens Falls Post-Star newspaper, whose interest is partly that Eustis is a local resident. All of this speaks poorly to his notability. —Tim Pierce (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Might as well delete other Republican consultants like Patrick Ruffini and Scott Howell then! Just doesn't make sense. This kid is referenced more than most others.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.10.249 (talk) 21:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think their articles don't fit Wikipedia's standards, please feel free to tag them or bring them to AfD. Somehow, I don't think you will..... Peridon (talk) 10:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete You've got to be joking. All except the one that goes to the OCDB website (since he left them, thus no longer listed, and could be removed as a reference) have Eustis answering questions or giving statements -- there's things called "pages" in articles. Some of the articles have up to four pages (POLITICO, NYT, etc.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.10.249 (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If Eustis is mentioned only on the fourth or fifth page of a reference, then the reference should really use the URL for that page. Unfortunately, this doesn't really help the case for his notability, as it just confirms that these are all passing mentions of his name in articles on other subjects. —Tim Pierce (talk) 12:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * He's obviously becoming notable. He's a consultant in a movement that is involved in one of the most historic elections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocpoliticalguy (talk • contribs) 00:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)  — Ocpoliticalguy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * That may be true, but "becoming notable" isn't one of the Wikipedia criteria for inclusion. Being already notable is. —Tim Pierce (talk) 02:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete Just added a Boston Globe article that featured Eustis as a young, up-and-coming leader in the movement who is making a difference at the grassroots level... yes, folks, there are "small people" who are making waves. Plus I edited his dead references and fixed some things.  I recommend no deletion of this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYGOPer (talk • contribs) 05:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Struck - You cannot !vote multiple times. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 06:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete I am clearly not seeing why this article should be deleted. It seems like a partisan act to destroy a reputation to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.255.19.191 (talk) 06:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)  — 98.255.19.191 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete reading the sources almost all are only mentions or quotes by Eustis and the rest don't confer notability and the most significant things left are that he was an unsuccessful candidate for local public office and worked for the Tea Party Express until October 2009. That's not enough. Hekerui (talk) 11:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Refs all seem to be "in passing", and I see nothing that discusses the subject in any detail or demonstrates sufficient notability -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:11, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.