Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelvin Pichardo (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Minor league baseball player with a clear consensus that he fails to meet the relevant notability guidelines. TerriersFan (talk) 22:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Kelvin Pichardo
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Former minor league baseball player; his highest level played was Class AA. The subject doesn't appear to meet WP:BASE/N. The previous afd resulted in a decision to redirect and merge, but now that he's no longer active, there doesn't appear to be any obvious redirect target. BRMo (talk) 03:25, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. BRMo (talk) 03:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess it comes down to how trivial we consider these sources to be.. I say delete; it's not enough. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable. Alex (talk) 03:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm fine with deleting this, but I wish someone could explain how this guy is non-notable after YEARS of minor league baseball while Matt Barnes, Jason Krizan, and Cody Martin (three pending AfDs) are considered notable, despite little or no professional experience. If anyone really believes Pichardo has received less coverage than these other three, they haven't looked very hard. — NY-13021 (talk) 06:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:GNG requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Professional experience isn't a factor, though length of career could mean a greater chance of meeting GNG. Pichardo's career apperas pretty nondescript, receiving coverage only for a minor trade and a drug suspension. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced by this rationale at all. Pichardo has received coverage in Reuters, MLB.com, USA Today, etc. Meanwhile, the coverage of Barnes, Krizan and Martin is almost exclusively local or regional. I know you created those three pages and want them kept, but this is a substantial change of standards here. There's no way Pichardo is less notable than those other three (and I'm in favor of deleting Pichardo). — NY-13021 (talk) 22:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Those sources appear to be on the trivial side, meaning that they don't discuss him at length, and only in the context of a suspension and a trade, which was focused around an established MLB player. The coverage Krizan, Barnes, etc. have gotten focuses on them in some level of depth. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. The USA Today articles about Pichardo are basically transaction reports that say little about Pichardo.  Barnes on the other hand has several articles discussing him specifically and in depth.  And Krizan is an NCAA record holder, which gives him presumed notability even in the absence of demonstrated sources. Rlendog (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Doesn't meet WP:BASE/N and the only significant coverage I could find was about him testing positive for performance enhancing drugs (and then being suspended for that). IMO, that is not enough, especially when you take into consideration that this is a BLP. Jenks24 (talk) 09:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Secret account 19:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.