Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. S warm  ♠  04:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo
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Fails GNG. Her career isn't notable, and nothing is cited for her journalistic career. She is mentioned trivially in every other source in that section. She was a local victim advocate, but most of the mentions seem to have occurred in spurts, and she wasn't even all that famous for being deported. It is possible that her visibility is based on the fact that she is apparently the daughter of a former politician in Nigeria (according to one of the articles, but not mentioned anywhere else). MSJapan (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Tons were cited on her Journalistic Career on appearances as an expert on terrorism, gun violence and health topics on CNN, Ruptly, BBC,CBC, FOX News and more. They were deleted by blocked user Wikishawnio. See reverted version pls. Wikicohen (talk) 13:18, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * We've been over this on the article talk page already. None of the appearances you added as references described her as an expert on anything, instead she was consistently referred to as a reporter or journalist. A typical example of "journalists interviewing journalists".Sjö (talk) 17:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article has had serious COI issues since it was created and is a serious candidate for WP:TNT even if the subject is notable. I'm not convinced she is. It appears that the subject has made great effort to become notable, but with only passing mentions in reliable sources, she's not achieved that yet. ~ RobTalk 21:52, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not convinced that she is really notable despite her numerous attempts at self publicity.Cathar66 (talk) 10:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Blatant self promotion and peacockery, and this article has been a hotbed of contentious editing and COI editing. The only real notability has been from articles written about the subject's failed attempts at self promotion, and for petty accusations of wrongdoing.  Scr ★ pIron IV 14:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Pretty notable, loads and loads of non-trivial international coverage over multiple years. The Nigerian sources do say she is the daughter of Victor Omololu Olunloyo, but that doesn't seem to have much to do with her notability directly; there she seems one of those people "famous for being famous", but that does count, we've got plenty of articles on people like that.
 * Canadian sources: Toronto Sun 2012 2013 Metro News 2012 Toronto Star 2009 2009 2012 The Globe and Mail 2010 2012
 * Nigerian sources: 2012 Pulse 2014 2015 2015 2012 The Eagle 2012 The Punch 2013 2015
 * Minor, but still nontrivial, articles: Toronto Sun 2009 2010 2010 2010 2012 2012 Winnipeg Free Press 2011 Naij 2014 2015 2015 Daily Post Nigeria 2014 Pulse 2014 --GRuban (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm still on the fence about the article, but I'd like to mention that she is apparently a VIP blogger for Pulse.ng which makes Pulse less of an independent source. Sjö (talk) 06:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Shouldn't matter per Sjö. There are 33 music columnist articles written by her in the Nigerian Tribune and also interviews and stories written about her before and after those articles Wikicohen (talk) 09:01, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "Written by" doesn't help notability. Almost any journalist will have written hundreds or thousands of articles. Just doing their job doesn't make a journalist notable. WP:JOURNALIST is a relevant section. Sjö (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * CommentSjö I wasn't talking about her articles being notable. I was talking about notable articles written ABOUT her. You are the same person saying Pulse can't be an independent source. The fact that articles are written about someone and they work there should not affect independent sources. I know of a Journalist who committed murder and his paper was the first to carry the article which BTW was notable.Wikicohen (talk) 13:11, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep There are numerous articles in newspapers in more than one country, so now clearly passes the WP:GNG. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly she passed GNG but everyone has to remember that when I created this article I cited numerous sources on her Journalism career. They were deleted by Wikishawnio and then started adding lots of non encyclopaedic content resulting in edit warring. All her Journalism notability were reduced to networks she appeared on and not what she appeared for. It was then I noticed that this person did not like her and he began fighting me assuming I was Kemi. I alerted admins but was ignored! [redacted per WP:OUTING] At one point, "someone" posted some messages on her gun violence blog which I read daily at the every same time I got a notice of a sockpuppetry investigation from Rob being conducted against me. Yes I made legal threats because Rob falsely accused me knowing fully that 4 IP's coming from Nigeria could be 1-4 people. IP's in Nigeria are unique to ISP's not computers. Anyone could be editing from an internet cafe and I shouldn't be accused falsely. What if I did not read Kemi's blog and see those comments? It was not investigated by Rob and others. The comments cited that I was set up, then made death threats and wrote disturbing things (remember the writer still thinks they are talking to Kemi and me Wikicohen as the same person.) This was ignored by admins that my life may even be threatened all because I'm editing a wiki article. [redacted per WP:OUTING] I cannot contact Kemi, I don't know her, never met her and just picked her as a good article choice. There is already a COI on this article yet Im not a close connection to her. Someone affiliated with my article on her is now making death threats on her and also knows details on this wiki page. [redacted per WP:OUTING] Don't you think these threats are serious? This is not why I am on wikipedia. Back to Kemi, MSJapan She is not famous because of her father, There is no connection. All over the internet they have a violent history and she did not grow up 30 years in Nigeria so why the affiliation? My conclusion, this article should be reverted to the original article and still semi-protected then allow others to edit it neutrally. Once again read these comments. I feel sorry for Kemi herself who is the one being directly threatened. [redacted per WP:OUTING] Wikicohen (talk) 08:20, 4 September 2015 (UTC) — Wikicohen (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  14:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Obviously notable, multiple RS coverage. The article has had a history of heated COI editwarring. However, that is not a reason to delete. Rather, article should be put under BLP sanctions. Editwarriors should be warned, and if necessary banned. LK (talk) 03:46, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.