Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ken Goldstein (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) C T J F 8 3  chat 16:09, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Ken Goldstein
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Not enough third party sources. Shadowjams (talk) 11:22, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Subject has been covered in Variety Magazine, Coco Eco Magazine, X Media Lab, and Juxtapoz Magazine, all of which are independent of the subject of the article and are independently edited, meeting the requirements of WP:RS and WP:Notability (people).  Note:  There seems to be some confusion -- the Ken Goldstein mentioned in the previous nomination is a former vice presidential candidate, not this person.  AkankshaG (talk) 16:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- -- Cirt (talk) 13:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – Besides Variety, Goldstein has been profiled in the Sunday Oregonian, Sportswear International, AFI Festival, A&E Television, The Chicago Tribune, The New Times and The Chicago Production Weekly.Brittponset (talk) 19:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The article was adequately and quite well sourced at the time of nomination, easily aserting and showing notability through multiple reliable sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Subject seems notable- article well sourced. Goldstein was mentioned in the Variety article multiple times. As observed by AkankshaG, this does seem to be a different Ken Goldstein than the VP running mate mentioned as the first nomination for deletion. SharedPlanetType (talk) 22:52, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Subject not VP running mate. Besides the many press articles cited above, the subject was instrumental, with Tonny Sorensen, in bringing Planet Illogica to the American Film Institute Digital Content Lab while I was Director of the Lab. Subsequent success of the venture speaks to his standing within the arts community. Zorca777 (talk) 07:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - He is mentioned in passing, or is being quoted as chief marketing dude for planet illogica. But what is missing is significant coverage about him.  Although there are a lot of sources in the article, many of them are not independent.  For Example, COCO magazine's article is not about him.  It is written by him.  The reference to the article in the Oregonian actually leads to a blog on planet illogica.  Just because it looks adequately referenced, does not mean it is.  -- Whpq (talk) 14:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 *  Keep  - subject is discussed substantively in this piece in The Oregonian, dated 9 November 1997, by author Margie Boule. The Oregonian cannot be found online, but a full copy of the piece can be found at http://www.planetillogica.com/kengoldstein#tab:Portfolios&portfolio:46564&media:46562.Brittponset (talk) 03:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC) Strikethough of duplicate !vote Peridon (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Note - subject is discussed substantively in this piece in The Jewish Review, dated 1 March 1998, by author Deborah Seldner. The Jewish Review cannot be found online, but a full copy of the piece can be found at http://www.planetillogica.com/kengoldstein#tab:Portfolios&portfolio:46564&media:46565. Subject is also discussed substantively in this piece in VIBE Magazine, dated March 2001, by author Matthew Cowan. The article can be found online at http://books.google.com/books?id=gCYEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=Ken+Goldstein+%22%22Vibe+Magazine%22%22Prophet+Speaks&source=bl&ots=aZquATMg5T&sig=47vUa_TILmihUfY8fejTFrswvqA&hl=en&ei=QiUUTcq6H4zksQOx_Iy6Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false. Subject is also discussed and credited in Variety Magazine, dated 24 February 2010, by author Sharon Swart. The article can be found online at http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118015719.Brittponset (talk) 03:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.234.56 (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Goldstein is discussed substantively in this article in the Jewish Review (http://www.planetillogica.com/kengoldstein#tab:Portfolios&portfolio:46564&media:46565), and in the Oregonian article, which can be found at http://www.planetillogica.com/kengoldstein#tab:Portfolios&portfolio:46564&media:46562, both of which support a claim of notability, and both of which are reliable sources under Wikipedia rules (See WP:Notability and WP:RS). These are multiple articles from multiple sources, which satisfies Notability.  A nomination for deletion is not appropriate under these circumstances, as the subject satisfies our notability rules by being described substantively in these multiple sources.MixedMartial1984 (talk) 08:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - subject is discussed substantively in this piece in Juxtapose, dated 25 March 2010, by author Elle Newbold. The Juxtapose article, entitled, Gators Going Green Unite With Planet Illogica for the Oceans, can be found online at http://www.juxtapoz.com/19327-oceans-infiltrate-at-university-of-florida. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alharrismcgee (talk • contribs) 23:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Note - subject is discussed substantively in this video clip from Boardroom Radio Australia which can be found on-line at http://www.brr.com.au/event/66613/tonny-sorenson--ken-goldstein-co-founders-of-planet-illogica-part1. Subject is also discussed substantively in this piece on the official Playstation Blog by author Joe Vaux, dated 19 May 2009, which can be found at http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/05/19/littlebigplanet-the-patch-family-guys-joe-vaux/. Subject is also discussed substantively in the this piece on Golgotron by author Chase, 3 August 2010, which can be found at http://golgotron.com/2010/08/the-people-will-look-up-and-shout-save-us/#more-5398. Brittponset —Preceding undated comment added 22:11, 26 December 2010 (UTC).
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