Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ken Weiss


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Shimeru (talk) 05:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Ken Weiss

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PROD removed. No reliable sources to show notability - notability is not inherited through association with bands that have won awards etc. I cannot find any appropriate sources (nothing in Google News). I cannot find verifiable information about the subject. See also WP:BLP  Chzz  ►  21:46, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Silver  seren C 01:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment I have tagged the article for rescue. I found two sources, but i'm sure there's more to be found somewhere because, according to IMDb, he did do most of the things it says. Silver  seren C 01:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nominator. --Karljoos (talk) 01:35, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep, the guy may be a mere gnome in his industry but he is a significant one who has been in the background of giants we all know and has made a notable difference in their careers. It will just take more work to find references, which is no reason to cop out and forget about him. Incubate this stub for a few years but don't make it necessary to resurrect it from scratch after somebody finally digs up something out of their archives to fill in some blanks.  When it comes to the more private individuals in such a highly notable industry we have to expect it to take more time to flesh out an article on these people.  Aaron Walkhouse (talk) 04:55, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the article says that "(...)he developed working relationships with songwriters as diverse as Bob Dylan, Ira Gershwin, Van Morrison, Jimi Hendrix ", but it doesn't say what kind of working relationship (songwriter? score proof reader? accompanist? the guy who carries the artists' briefcase?). It also estates that he worked for a company selling "(...) tens of millions of recordings by Stephen Stills, Crosby, Stills & Nash (and Young), Firefall, Aretha Franklin, Joe Cocker, Bob Seger and many others", once more not saying what he did in the company (CEO? manager? receptionist?). Okay, he was the manager to Stephen Stills. This is interesting: "(he continued) to develop his music publishing interests, in 1991 Ken signed up-and-coming songwriter Frank Wildhorn to an exclusive music publishing deal. In the ensuing five years, Frank went on to become the most important composer on Broadway having successfully developed four musicals: Jekyll & Hyde, The Scarlet Pimpernel, The Civil War and Dracula"... what is his merit? He was neither the composer nor the libretist! I don't see how working near these well known artists makes him notable, and also there're no sources.--Karljoos (talk) 11:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 16:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * This is a weak argument; we don't keep articles just on the offchance that, one day, someone may discover reliable sources. There are simply no references to even create a stub.  Chzz  ►  20:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete with prejudice, I can't find any references to establish notability. I have to say that an article at IMDB authored by Anonymous does not give me any confidence that any reliable references will be found. I can't find anything that shows Gold Hill to be notable, it appears they sell sheet music. Rock and Sock apparently runs a women's boxing series. The link to the book on amazon has a bio blurb that he's a film historian, collector and author. This article doesn't smell good to me at all.... --Nuujinn (talk) 00:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - There's nothing to establish notability. The claims for notability in the article are all very nebulous.  We have an abundance of name dropping with no indication of why the association to these people should be considered notable, and more importantly, there are no sources to support the claims.  We have claims of industry awards with absolutely no information about what these awards are; we have only vague claims.  These cannot be verified as there is no information to actually verify.  We also have claims of multiple gold and platinum albums.  Again, we have no details.  -- Whpq (talk) 16:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
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