Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenji Harima


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of School Rumble characters. Black Kite 23:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Kenji Harima

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No evidence of notability independent of the series. The article consists entirely of unnecessary plot summary and original research.

I am also nominating the following articles for the same reason:

McWomble (talk) 14:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Kenji Harima, Tenma Tsukamoto as main characters in a manga and anime. Merge the rest to List of School Rumble characters. Edward321 (talk) 14:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. That does not make them notable. Notability of a series is not inherited by the characters. There is no evidence of notability independent of the series. McWomble (talk) 14:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: This isn't so much a question of notability as a question of whether there is enough real world information. Notability (fiction) specifies that "If consensus on a fictional element is that it is of unproven notability, editors should seek to retain the information where it can improve the encyclopedia. Such coverage may be placed as part of the main article on the work of fiction, or if better suited, an article on another, notable fictional element. If this makes the main article too long, per Wikipedia's article size guidelines, then there are several steps to consider" - IF the pages listed in this AFD can be consolidated without making the mother article too large, then we can do this. On the other hand, if there is enough real world information, non-notable characters can get their own articles. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge all into List of School Rumble characters per every version of WP:FICT. None of the characters establish independent notability, but deleting them is not the appropriate way to handle character articles. I see that the nominator has failed to seek alternatives to deletion such as starting a merger discussion on any of the talk pages or place merge tags on any of the articles. --Farix (Talk) 15:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge. I was going to say almost exactly the same thing as TheFarix, but since he did it first, I'll just point to his comment. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per Farix and Quasirandom. I personally think the 2 protagonists should stand on their own, but I don't entertain much hope of that proposal surviving deletionist attitudes. --Gwern (contribs) 16:58 5 November 2008 (GMT)
 * Delete or merge, maybe, if no consensus to delete just being a manga character is hardly notable. There needs to be some demonstrated real world significance, household name status, not just in-magaverse stuff. However, a merge into the parent article is a reasonable alternative, after some judicious trimming. Some reliable, third party sources would be nice in any article. This is just too in story, in universe. Dloh  cierekim  20:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Renominate individually where i will then say to merge the minor characters, & keep the major ones separate. If the fiction is major, the main characters are. It would be wise to sort out group nomination like these into articles of equal notability. Its not even actually necessary to renom the minor characters, if agreement can be found to merge, but there does not seem to be agreement here to treat them all equally./ —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 03:31, November 6, 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep all the nomination is too vague and unsubstantiated to delete so many articles outright. Colonel Warden (talk) 14:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reject out of hand per Articles for deletion/Ring Mao 208.245.87.2 (talk) 20:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect all. Per policies regarding in-universe characters with no outside notability. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.