Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenjiro Yoshigasaki


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. A general conse nsus that none of the articles display sifficient notability. Black Kite (talk) 21:30, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Kenjiro Yoshigasaki

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Article with only primary sources about a martial artist that doesn't appear to meet WP:MANOTE. My search didn't find significant independent coverage of him. Papaursa (talk) 03:35, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 03:35, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all very closely related and do not stand on their own:
 * Peter Rehse (talk) 11:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Peter Rehse (talk) 11:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Peter Rehse (talk) 11:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect and Merge I would like to see some confirmation of the numbers of members and dojos (they look inflated to me) but given that there would be enough to justify a merge and redirect of Ki No Kenkyukai Association Internationale and Kenkodo into Kenjiro Yoshigasaki.  All three are directly associated with each other but can not stand alone.  Kenkodo  definately is non-notable.  I would suggest a straight Delete of Kiatsu  mainly because it is far from clear what the article is about but book or concept notability is not clear.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Based on the talk pages of the articles the original author seems to reflect my view vis a vis the merging of three into Kenjiro Yoshigasaki and the deletion of Kiatsu. There is a dearth of secondary sources but there are a number of publications and I think in the context of Ki Aikido a good case can be made for notability of a merged article.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:13, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete all None of these articles have significant independent coverage. The articles claim Kenkodo and Kiatsu are the same and Kiatsu's only sources are from it's founder and Kenkodo's sources are the same plus an article by Yoshigasaki who appears to be it's leading advocate.  Yoshigasaki's article has no independent sources and the association's sources are Yoshigasaki (its founder) and it's own publications.Mdtemp (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I nominated the Yoshigasaki article for deletion, but I agree with Mdtemp's assessment--all 4 nominated articles lack the independent sources required to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 02:53, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Redirect and Merge I have added new footnotes and inline references. How we can close the AfD discussion to merge all(Ki No Kenkyukai Int Assc, Kenkodo) articles to Kenjiro Yoshigasaki? Peter Rehse advi ced he can help me to do that? kiakido1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiaikido1 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * There still doesn't seem to be any independent sources for the Yoshigaskaki article. The sources you added are from someone who studied the same art with the same teacher as Yoshigasaki and that doesn't seem like an independent source to me. Papaursa (talk) 02:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete These articles all lack the necessary coverage to show notability or meet the conditions at WP:MANOTE. Jakejr (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.