Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth "Ken" R.L. Parker


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 06:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Kenneth "Ken" R.L. Parker
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Was speedied but article improved, however there must be 100s if not 1000s of candidates for Mayor and I see no indication that this person is in any way notable! Paste (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Newton is basically the same size as Cambridge, MA and their mayor has a Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Denise_Simmons

Their city manager has a page....he's not elected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Healy

Also several current members of the Cambridge, MA City Council have their own Wiki pages, which can be seen in the Cambridge, MA wiki page. Newton's population is 85,000 and Cambridge is 100,000. Ken Parker is a current office holder in Newton.

Searching for candidates...unsigned comment added by Spfitz (talk • contribs) 19:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I can see that both Healy and Simmons are notable, Parker is not in my opinion! Paste (talk) 19:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

City Councillor Toomey's notability seems similar to Parkers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spfitz (talk • contribs) 19:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Northampton MA mayor has a page, and her City is a third of the size of Newton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spfitz (talk • contribs) 19:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The mayor of Newton has an article David B. Cohen (mayor)? Paste (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess Mayor Cohen does have an entry. I'm guessing he didn't write it. It seems to me that there are many cities that are comparable or smaller in size to Newton whose elected officials have Wiki pages. As an at-large alderman, Parker represents the entire City of 85,000 people, has held office for 17 years and is a credible candidate for mayor.--Shawn P. Fitzgibbons (talk) 20:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Notability not established. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Mayors or city managers of even medium sized cities normally have pages in Wikipedia, and Newton is large enough to qualify.Candidates for mayor? perhaps major party candidates for the very largest cities--but they will almost always have done sufficient to have an article anyway-and multiple news stories. We seem to sometimes accept now major party candidates for positions in national legislatures, and these will usually have substantial political backgrounds as well. (I would urge we accept them all, in countries with a clear 2 or possibly 3 party system). But candidates for mayor in small or medium size cities? No. As for city councils, I remember when we had quite an argument before we got that accepted for Chicago. It is accepted now for large cities. newton is not a large city.   Perhaps we need numerical cutoffs, but  it will also depend to some extent to which the city is prominent nationally or internationally. DGG (talk) 15:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Do not delete - why though would elected officials who serve on City Councils be allowed pages? Ken is a long time elected official. At the time of his election, he was one of the youngest elected representatives of a city the size of Newton. Also, there are many mayors and even city managers who have wiki pages who are from much smaller cities. A city manager is simply an appointed administrator. As an at large alderman, in Newton, Ken Parker represents many more people. He also serves as a member of the Massachusetts State Democratic Party.--132.183.223.35 (talk) 20:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Your point about City Councils would hold true if there were no other city councilors with Wiki pages, but there are as I noted at the top. Also, you point out that the City should be noteworthy. Newton, MA is a noteworthy city in many ways as you can see on the city's Wikipedia page. Just this week it was once again rated the 4th safest city in the country. It is home to nationally prominent individuals from many fields including sports, academia and business. --132.183.223.35 (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you establish his notability with substantial coverage in reliable media? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


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