Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Abendana Spencer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 03:11, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Kenneth Abendana Spencer

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This artist fails WP:ARTIST using the fourth criterion, and likely WP:GNG too. I cannot find any news on him from Google News besides two passing mentions. On regular search I can only find biographies about him, a few websites with pictures of some of his art, and sites selling his works. The one reference on the page is also a website selling his art. The only unique site I found about him is one person who had written part of their dissertation on Kenneth. Although the page itself can't be used as a reference because it is a blog, the references from the page could possibly contain more than a passing mention, which could pass GPG. However, he does not seem to pass ARTIST at all. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 02:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Artists,  and Jamaica. Capsulecap (talk • contribs) 02:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

*Keep He's definitely an accomplished artist and seems to pass WP:ARTIST. If your in a gallery, an online encyclopedia like Wikipedia is where you'd check for more information. Wikipedia Editor (talk) 22:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Paintings in the National Gallery of Modern Art (India) and the National Gallery of Jamaica. This is outsider art to some degree, but he's definitely achieved some recognition for it.. (Also, can we not call him by his first name? That's a little strangely disrespectful.) Jahaza (talk) 03:50, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Insufficient reliable sources to establish notability. Curntag (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2022 (UTC) Blocked sock
 * — Curntag (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete, fails WP:GNG based on far too few sources and RS. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 21:17, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Having paintings in two national galleries, including his home country, is very close to passing WP:NARTIST (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. Strictly speaking, you would like to see three permanent collections represented, but since these are national galleries, I'm inclined to give him a pass. Curiocurio (talk) 15:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I also found mention of his works at something called the Olympia in Jamaica, which seems to be different than the national gallery. Appears to be a permanent display in a legitimate gallery. Oaktree b (talk) 16:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep if and only if the sources found are added, with context, per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 21:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Relisting once more. Seems like a consensus for Weak Keep but hoping for more reliable sources. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Nothing in Gscholar, Gnews (other than a brief mention of his family donating money to a college) or in JStor. No name turns up in the Getty ULAN either. Weak keep given as he's in the permanent collections as described, but we'd need sourcing to be added to the article to confirm this fact. Oaktree b (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * His works have been featured in a number of auctions in Jamaica and abroad, not sure if that helps establish notability, but they go for a fair bit of money. At least helps prove critical attention in art circles I suppose. Oaktree b (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete I am not find any better or more reliable sources. The current single source does not offer any information on the subject. The article was written in 2008 and the single citation was added in 2011. It appears that the information from this article has been used for biographical information for younger auction site listings.


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