Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Fletcher (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to William Control. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Kenneth Fletcher (musician)

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Fails WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG. Forms part of what appears to be (at first glance) a notable act yet he's not notable himself. Editor has created 5 articles related to this band and all but this one have been deleted, as well as non-free images; possible undisclosed COI editing at work. Creator has furthermore attempted to remove all deletion tags from those aforementioned articles, as well as this one. FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  17:03, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - he's not actually mentioned in the only reliable reference. Deb (talk) 18:38, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

No, because it mentions the band as a whole. He produced the album it refers to and that is why it's included. The other references are reliable.

He's a significant part of William Control the band. Just because someone isn't the main face it doesn't mean their contributions aren't important. There's no 'COI editing' - I'm updating pages with relevant and factually correct information. Nothing is opinion, it's all fact. I removed the sentences that said where books could be got - I hadn't realised this was an issue, I was just giving all available information on the books. The pre-sales mentions are again for information only - the books are no longer available through the band's website so there's nothing promotional there. I'm only just learning how to work Wikipedia so I didn't realise tags shouldn't be deleted. You've deleted pages that are relevant, important and notable. The non-free images are all album/book covers, and are disclosed as such. Perhaps if you attempted to explain things in a pleasant, non-patronising way then I would more quickly learn how things work. Just deleting things without any valid explanation or rationale simply gets people's backs up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pippinangus (talk • contribs) 07:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, let's be specific about this. Do you know Kenneth Fletcher in person?Deb (talk) 11:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Reliable? Instagram and "personal correspondance" [sic] are without a doubt not reliable on Wikipedia! FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  18:17, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to William Control, the only project for which Fletcher appears actually noteworthy (but not independently notable). Per WP:MUSICBIO: members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. All coverage of this subject by third-party reliable sources is likely to be passing or in regards to William Control. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete, or as mentioned above, redirect. No references indicate individual notability outside of the his role with William Control. Article seems to make an argument of notability by association. ShelbyMarion (talk) 13:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.