Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth G. Eade


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The result was   no consensus. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 13:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Kenneth G. Eade

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This is a heavily promotional BLP. The subject is an author, lawyer, and businessman, but has achieved notability in none of these fields. His books are self-published, and have been reviewed only in venues specific to self-published works. The article is overrun with references, but the closest he comes to coverage in a traditional reliable source is a barely-more-than-passing mention in a 2002 blog post at Forbes. Contested prod. Opabinia regalis (talk) 03:19, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep The subject has been quoted as an expert in many media articles, cited as references in the article, his cases against Experian and Equifax and Chase have achieved notoriety, and have been quoted in the media as well. He has co-written and produced a feature film, Say it in Russian, which is the subject of a separate article on Wikipedia, and his latest self published novel, "A Patriot's Act," is being republished and will be on sale this summer in Walmarts, Costco, Barnes and Nobel and other bookstores coast to coast.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentia Nesterova (talk • contribs) 10:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC)  — Valentia Nesterova (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep Don't see promotional bio here, only biographic info. City Book Review, MBR, Digital JournalEContent, Washington Examiner, FPA, Nice Matin, Guardian all reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgeivak (talk • contribs) — Georgeivak (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete. The only full-length piece comes from a Digital Journal interview, "a media business where everyone can contribute and engage," so we don't have any real reliable sources.  This appears to be written by someone close to the subject as well, thus the overly promotional tone. Thargor Orlando (talk) 11:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/New+Riviera+article.pdf Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/MONACO+GAZETTE+ARTICLE+0608.pdf Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/la+stampa+article.pdf Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/la+verdad.pdf Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/starslife+article.pdf Jump up ^ http://www.gettyimages.com/editorial/agata-gotova-pictures Jump up ^ "Carmike Cinemas Hosts Premiere for Independent Film". TriCities.com. Jump up ^ "Carmike Cinemas Hosts Premiere for Independent Film". wjhl.com. 25 April 2009. Jump up ^ http://www.riverfronttimes.com/movies/say-it-in-russian-697551/ Jump up ^ http://www.dallasobserver.com/movies/say-it-in-russian-1288366/ Jump up ^ http://www.citypages.com/movies/say-it-in-russian-837865/ Jump up ^ http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/movies/say-it-in-russian-750173/ Jump up ^ http://wdef.com/news/say_it_in_russian_movie_premier_in_chattanooga/04/2009 Jump up ^ http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/carmike_cinemas_hosts_premiere_for_independent_film/23370/ Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/Russian+article+032909.pdf Jump up ^ http://sayitinrussianmovie.com/resources/http___honoluluweekly.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentia Nesterova (talk • contribs) 12:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete . I have added references to Say it in Russian, a theatrically released feature film that the subject is known to have produced and co-written. These are traditional media such as Honolulu Weekly, La Stamps, La Verdad, The Dallas Observer and The Riverfront Times, as well as video news reels in the 16 states that the film played in, which included the subject as the producer.

Valentia Nesterova (talk) 14:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)Valentina Nesterova  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Do not Delete .: Also added reviews on two books from notable source Midwest Book Review

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 15:27, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Per WP:AUTHOR #3 multiple book and movie reviews. It does have problems with overref but it is easily fixed. -- Green  C  12:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Green Cardomon, writing because I have seen how exacting you are on other pages. You probably know if reviews for a single movie qualifies him.  But you may not realize that Midwest Book Review & San Francisco Book Review sound like real book review publications, but they aren't.    I could not find a single review in an edited book review of any of his books in a "real" publication.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep Per WP:AUTHOR #3 multiple book reviews and work was made into a feature film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentia Nesterova (talk • contribs) 09:17, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep His non-fiction book is used for course material at University of Oklahoma College of LawValentia Nesterova (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2015 (UTC)Valentia Nesterova
 * You can comment as much as you want, but you're only allowed 1 !vote. I've struck all your other !votes. Natg 19 (talk) 21:35, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 01:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Blow it up. WP:ADMASQ, and the antics going on in this AfD aren't doing the article any favors either. Pax 09:03, 4 March 2015 (UTC)


 * reluctant keep. Most of the sourcing is worthless. Some, like Midwest Book Review looks like an edited, selective book review, but isn't. San Francisco Book Review looks even sketchier (i.e., these appear to be commercial websites that "review" many hundreds of books each month (no real book review review 600 books a month), but are commercial businesses that generate revenue, advertising and traffic by having titles that make them appear to be real. Not clear to me that being nominated for a RHONE award is competitive (neither is being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, but real book awards have qualifying events that make nominations real honors). I got to footnote 19 beforee I found anything that looked like a real source.  It wasn't it was a one-line promo that this author had written in his alumni mag class notes section.  Sources 20-23 appear to document the fact that he married his wife.  Who cares?  Then, at source # 27, I came on something real.  An article in Forbes a real article that describes Eade as a flimflam artist.  Here is the section about Eade: "Just as in Hollywood, not everything meets the eye when it comes to this company. AmeriDream’s little office in Bermuda Dunes has been, or still is, the address for 14 other public and private companies, going by such names as Specialized Leasing, Herbalist and Cyber Vitamin. Behind the scenes is a small group of stock promoters and one very prolific Santa Barbara attorney, Kenneth Eade, who have put together companies that typically float in the nether regions of the over-the-counter Bulletin Board system. In 1998 one of the promoters, Russell (Skip) Nordstrom, of something called National Investors Council, was slapped by the Securities & Exchange Commission with a cease-and-desist order for failing to disclose that he was receiving payments from companies to issue glowing research reports. Nordstrom consented to the order without admitting or denying guilt. He was recently the head of investor relations of AmeriDream.  Elliott came into this bunch when Eade–whose Russian wife dabbles in Hollywood and will be acting, if you can call it that..."  It seems to sum this man's career up.  Slogging on through more references where Eade promotes himself as, for example, an expert on genetically engineered foof (and the article begins to feel like a low end remake of Catch Me if You Can.  There's even a sequence where this flimflam man impersonates a philanthropist (in Monaco)   Then.  In the final paragraph, it turns out that he once produced an actual movie Say It in Russian, with Faye Dunaway. And so, ladies and gentlemen, reluctant though I am to admit it (after giving his article a careful read, I'd rather see him arrested than given a page) I think that the movie and the paragraph in Forbes where the nature of his flimflammery is made clear do merit an article.  I believe, however. That the article must be reduced to name, rank, and serial number, i.e. the  Information from Forbes is sourced, along with the Faye Dunaway movie.  All the rest of his smoke-and-mirrors self-promoting clap-trap needs to be deleted. (willing - even eager - to change my vote if producing a single real movie is not in and f itself sufficient for notability)E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment from the nominator - I had almost forgotten about this AfD because I took it off my watchlist due to the many repetitive posts. IMO this is as weak a case as it gets for WP:AUTHOR#3 - is a single (vanity?) co-writing credit for a barely-notable movie "a significant or well-known work"? He wasn't even mentioned in the movie's article prior to the introduction of the infobox directory information. On re-researching, though, I do find that he's been the subject of a somewhat unusual Securities Exchange Commission lawsuit and had an interesting defamation lawsuit of his own dismissed (described here and here; actual decisions are publicly available). Still don't think that makes him notable, but it's a failure of comprehensiveness in the existing article, and supports your overall assessment. Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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