Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Gardner


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The result was delete and redirect to Twin Towers 2. Spartaz Humbug! 09:20, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Kenneth Gardner

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I am the author of this article. At the time, I though this subject was notable for a Wikipedia article. Now that I think about it, this person is only notable for One event, which is his World Trade Center design. I am proposing this is deleted or redirected to Twin Towers 2.  CookieMonster755   (talk)   18:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect Speedy Delete : WP:CSD, author requested deletion, no non-minor edits by anyone other than creator. &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  22:10, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep This is an architect who designed a major proposal to replace the buildings destroyed on September 11th, whose work has been recognized by reliable and verifiable sources. This isn't someone who fell down a well or was caught on a video that went viral; BLP1E has no relevance here. Alansohn (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect Keep I admit I only went off nom earlier since its author requested deletion and no other real edits. Nah, it's completely fine.  Keep per WP:CREATIVE #3 "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work" and #4 "The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument".  One of two designers for the rebuilt Twin Towers....major role , significant or well-known work .  #4, not entirely certain on the definition of 'monument' here, but sounds like  to me.  &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  16:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC) ....Nevermind...again...didn't realize it was only a proposed design.  Forgive me, all-nighter.  Of course if he's done other stuff, then maybe.  &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  17:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * - Kenneth Gardner only designed a World Trade Center proposal, not the World Trade Center site that is currently under construction. His Twin Towers 2 design was favored by many people, but it was never constructed due to David Childs and Daniel Libeskind current design which was completed 2 years ago. Maybe that will change your mind about if the article should be deleted or not. Cheers.  CookieMonster755   (talk)   22:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, and he received extensive reliable and verifiable coverage. That's what notability is about. Alansohn (talk) 23:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment . We can all have our late nights. I don't think he has done anything significant other than his proposed Twin Towers 2 design.  CookieMonster755   (talk)   22:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Redirect to Twin Towers 2. Does not appear to be notable outside of that unbuilt project. Pax 06:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 17:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


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Please add new comments below this notice. North America1000 17:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment. It appears to me (after some digging through various commercial webpages) that, other than the Twin Towers design that did receive extensive attention, Gardner's main occupation has been as the builder of high-end architectural models for design and marketing. The website for his company (formerly The Gardner Group, now called Awad/Gardner Architectural Models)  has a nice-looking gallery of some of these works (and they are very cool) but provides little other information, and I haven't been able to find anything in independent reliable sources about his business or anything other than the WTC project.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:41, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Architect for the Twin Towers II? Of course, keep it. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 16:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * a rejected design for Twin Towers II :-/. I thought the same thing. &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  17:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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