Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenzie (songwriter)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Though he didn't bold anything, I'm going to interpret Dubulge's comment as a "keep" !vote. I probably should have done this a week ago but being a BLP, a few more comments would have been helpful. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Kenzie (songwriter)

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I don't see why merely writing songs (or assisting in writing songs--much of K-pop is cooperative, not to say industrial) is notable. The article has been tagged as unverified since 2009, and nothing's changed since then. Many of the songs don't appear notable in the first place, and I object in principle to an article that is nothing more than a resume: the only biographical fact in the article is a year of birth. The only "reference" in the article is this (scroll all the way to the bottom immediately to turn off that irritating ad), on a bloggy portal that appears to rehash SM Entertainment's press releases like so many other K-pop sites. This "reference" verifies nothing more than that she wrote a song. In short: not verifiably notable as a song writer. Drmies (talk) 15:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree actually with the claim that K-Pop is cooperative, many of foreign non-korean songs are composed by several composers whereas many K-Pop songs have only one main composer/songwriter for the whole project. Kenzie has been working with SM Entertainment as being one of the main songwriters under such company since 2002, she's helped create title songs for artists such as BoA, Isak N Jiyeon, Super Junior, CSJH, TVXQ, Girls' Generation, Shinee, f(x) and SM Town, many of which were number 1 songs. If all that is needed is citations and references to be verified, then it so shall be done. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 17:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep. It looks like the subject at least has a claim to be notable per WP:COMPOSER since a few of her songs already have Wikipedia articles. I recommend that this article be re-structured to indicate the chart performance of the hit songs she wrote, according to the authoritative music charts as indicated at Record charts. This would be a lot more relevant than the albums that the songs appeared on, which is currently included in the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.