Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenzie Ziegler


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Kenzie Ziegler
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This article was created by socks. The original article, Mackenzie Ziegler, which also involved sock puppetry, was created two years ago. It was speedied a few times and then deleted per a discussion, recreated yet again and speedied. I then salted it. There have been updates to the article because of the passing years. This is a procedural nomination. I express no view on whether the subject is sufficiently notable but dump it back in the community's lap for yet another discussion. For anyone searching for significant coverage in reliable sources, you'd be better off usiing Mackenzie as the first name rather than Kenzie. Kenzie was used only to avoid the salting.Bbb23 (talk) 18:05, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: I think that Mackenzie Ziegler is now notable.  She has 5.8 million Instagram followers and significant other social media; she was a main character on a successful reality TV show for several years; she has acted on scripted TV shows; she has released some popular songs/videos; she has modeled for some major advertising campaigns; and she has attracted a considerable amount of press.  More than 3,000 Google "News" sources refer to her.  *However*, the article is incorrectly named: It should be Mackenzie, not Kenzie.  All WP:Reliable sources and nearly all "news" sources refer to this subject as "Mackenzie", and she uses "Mackenzie" or "Mack Z" professionally. See: Mackenzie Ziegler references  vs. Kenzie Ziegler references.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:16, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: In my opinion, Mackenzie Ziegler has become sufficiently notable to warrant keeping the article, using the name Mackenzie Ziegler as the title. Somambulant1 (talk) 04:17, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as this person has attracted a lot of press, performed regularly on television for six years and has a very large social media following.  Also, the name of the article should be moved to her more frequently used name, "Mackenzie Ziegler". Jack1956 (talk) 10:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to Mackenzie Ziegler. She meets notability guidelines. Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 22:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: I had typed a long !vote with sources then the browser died.  :(  There are sources from the International Business Times, 'Daily Telegraph (Australia), Teen Vogue, news organisations (TV and print) in Pittsburg, and The Today Show, some not in the article, and I am convinced that Mackenzie Ziegler is notable under WP policy.  Article should be moved immediately – I agree with 's comments at his talk page and do not see a good reason to delay moving the article to the correct title, though the potential for BLP harm is low.  The article has referencing issues and is so-tagged for too many SPS, but that is a reason to edit, not delete.  No views on previous versions or salting, but I am confident that there will be an article on Ziegler soon, even if this one is deleted as the trend of ongoing coverage is clear.  I have seen sources speculating about dating which will only increase as she continues through her teen years so strong BLP warnings may be needed and ongoing monitoring of content, but these are not reasons to delete either.  EdChem (talk) 22:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.