Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kepaksian Sekala Brak Kuno


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 03:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Kepaksian Sekala Brak Kuno

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There seem to be no reliable sources for "Kepaksian Sekala Brak Kuno", and very few sources in general. The article is also barely comprehensible. It seems to be part of a series of new similar articles by one or two(?) brand new editors, User:The cinnamon and User:Anaya Fayola Amijaya, including Draft:Sekala Brak, Kepaksian Sekala Brak and Draft:Islam in Lampung (2): while these are not included in this AfD, they may help in deciding what best to do here (deleting, draftifying, redirecting, ...). But without better sources, I propose simple deletion as the best solution. Fram (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Draftify immediately. The article is a total mess and written a way that it is not even possible for an average WP editor to establish whether it should be kept, merged somewhere or deleted. Btw, the page has been disruptively moved in the meantime to Sekala Brak, which already had been draftified to Draft:Sekala Brak. Just like they have recreated Kepaksian Sekala Brak after it had been draftified (which is pretty reckless – is this a WP:A10?). –Austronesier (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is an A10 (A10 doesn't count between draft and article space), but it is a total trainwreck of multiple similar articles moved, draftified, recreated, ... by multiple brand new editors. Fram (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Add I have just looked up id.WP. The topic area has been haunted by a host of sock accounts which created the same mess there which we encounter here now. The page id:Kepaksian Sekala Brak has been trimmed to a stub by User:Rahmatdenas who noted that the topic is notable, but that the page suffered from multiple issues like unreliable sources, content not matching sources, etc. –Austronesier (talk) 15:39, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy draftify: Honestly not even worth taking a look at tbh. If it's factually accurate, then it's probably notable, but there's no chance in hell I'm going to even attempt to decipher this article as currently written. This needs a lot of love in order to be in mainspace. Curbon7 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I just read the comments by, which complicates the process if it's been constantly moved in and out. Curbon7 (talk) 18:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This article has been moved to the title Sekala Brak now. Liz Read! Talk! 01:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Created by Indonesian Wikipedia abuser. RaFaDa20631 (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G5; created by, a blocked sock; and the only expansion since is by at best dubious WP:SPA IPs... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.